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Post by PippaD on Dec 14, 2020 9:02:44 GMT
The Trident Leagues (the Isthmian, Northern Premier and Southern Football Leagues) welcome the decision to allow some fans into grounds situated in Tier 3 areas. However, in light of the decision of all 224 Clubs only last week to vote overwhelmingly in favour of suspending the current season the leagues have decided to wait to see the implications of the Government’s review of the Tier system in England – due next Wednesday - before making any further announcements.
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Post by PippaD on Dec 14, 2020 9:04:33 GMT
The Trident Leagues (the Isthmian, Northern Premier and Southern Football Leagues) welcome the decision to allow some fans into grounds situated in Tier 3 areas. However, in light of the decision of all 224 Clubs only last week to vote overwhelmingly in favour of suspending the current season the leagues have decided to wait to see the implications of the Government’s review of the Tier system in England – due next Wednesday - before making any further announcements. This is today’s league announcement. Obviously the review of the tier system is this Wednesday 16th not next Wednesday .. |
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Dec 14, 2020 16:12:41 GMT
The whole of London & parts of Hertfordshire & Essex will move into Tier 3. This has just been announced today. So even if other areas move in to less severe tiers, later this week, can't see any possibility of a return before next year. If all three leagues remain as one.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Dec 15, 2020 13:29:33 GMT
The Northern Premier League have just announced that clubs who agree can play league fixtures from this weekend. They also aim to start up again with a full programme of league fixtures from Boxing Day. So much for the unity of the Trident Leagues!.
I hope the Southern League follows a similar path.
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 18, 2020 19:13:41 GMT
I see the Southern league have announced the season will not be resuming before 9th January 2021.
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Post by Steve47 on Dec 18, 2020 21:44:23 GMT
I see the Southern league have announced the season will not be resuming before 9th January 2021. Considering there is a likelyhood of another lockdown after Christmas its more probable to be 2022 unfortunately.... |
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Post by parky64 on Dec 19, 2020 8:40:47 GMT
I see the Southern league have announced the season will not be resuming before 9th January 2021. Considering there is a likelyhood of another lockdown after Christmas its more probable to be 2022 unfortunately.... Totally agree mate,think this season is doomed. |
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 19, 2020 10:48:15 GMT
Or maybe a alternative format which has been mentioned as I would be surprised if there would be no promotions or relegation within the system for a 2nd season running.
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Post by WelshDolphin on Dec 19, 2020 13:24:18 GMT
Or maybe a alternative format which has been mentioned as I would be surprised if there would be no promotions or relegation within the system for a 2nd season running. Agreed, maybe try and get to a point where everyone has played each other once and then split the League in half, the top 10 playing for promotion and the bottom 10 to avoid relegation. Play the other 9 home or away depending where you have already played them. It means having to get 10 less games in for everyone which would hopefully make it achievable. |
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 20, 2020 9:04:59 GMT
I see the Northern Premier league resumed yesterday and they they have a full fixture list over xmas anyone no what's going on down south!!!!
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Post by scorpio on Dec 20, 2020 18:42:15 GMT
Seems a bit strange Happyhammer, as most of the north is a tier higher than the south, with the exception of London.You can sleep with your wife but you can't play her at tennis and now they are measuring slices of pizza to determine whether they constitute a proper meal or not. Get me out of this straightjacket!.
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 20, 2020 19:12:50 GMT
Absolutely!!!. I thought the Trident group were all starting at the same time obviously not it would be good to have a real time update of why we are not!!!.
Hope you are well Bob. COYD.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Dec 22, 2020 15:04:29 GMT
I fear that Steve47 and parky64 may be closer to what actually happens.
Happy New Year to all!
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 22, 2020 15:50:23 GMT
I notice plenty of clubs whom voted not to play league games are still playing friendlies!!!!
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Dec 22, 2020 15:59:55 GMT
I notice plenty of clubs whom voted not to play league games are still playing friendlies!!!! I see Wessex League is now suspended until new year. Personally I see another n&v coming. As there doesn't seem to be the will or want to complete the season by many clubs. Meanwhile those clubs that are trying to get promotion suffer another season of stagnation. This through no fault of their own. IE not being good enough on the pitch. For once I agree with a certain person currently managing a club over Old Sarum way. |
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Post by WelshDolphin on Dec 30, 2020 15:38:36 GMT
Today's latest announcement has placed Poole (and the rest of BCP) into Tier 4 as of tomorrow so there will be no games for the foreseeable I would imagine.
Not sure when the next review of tiers is planned (I would guess mid January?) so I would imagine the League will be suspended past the current date of January 9th and we will resume at the end of January IF WE ARE LUCKY.
Is anyone at Board level aware of the League's plan B for resumption if we are simply unable to get the games in? Do they have a plan B??
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Post by chrisreeves on Dec 30, 2020 20:47:37 GMT
I sit on the FA’s AllianceCommittee that deals with all things re steps1-4 of the pyramid.
Rest assured we are hard at it !
We have a meeting hastily arranged for next week. The FA executive have done a magnificent job preparing a detailed paper setting out their thoughts for all the various permutations as to how to move forward with the season. The Alliance committee will debate long and hard todo two things- 1 to decide our preferred option and 2 to produce a questionnaire with ALL the options to be emailed to all Clubs with a quick turn round for a response as to each Club’s opinion as to the best way forward.
We will then consider the responses and make our decision.
The drive from the Leagues and the FA is ideally to complete the season even if it has to be extended.We do need plans B and maybe even a plan C bearing in mind what may or may not happen.
The most important thing Is for Clubs and fans to know what the plan is given the outcome of all the issues over which we have little control.
This is not an answer I know- who has those at the moment?- what it does do ,however, I hope is to reassure all that the problems are being urgently addressed and that your Chairman has an opportunity to have his say!
As you would expect I have brought TK into my confidence in this respect.
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Post by WelshDolphin on Dec 31, 2020 10:40:26 GMT
Thanks Chris, good to know that is in hand, all the best with the decision making! I think the Southern League were one of the last Step 3-6 Leagues to post an update yesterday so I was just hoping they would have something up their sleeve. My 2p worth (sorry you're getting it if you want it or not!  ), we have to extend the season to the end of May if that is practical as we will just run out of time and run players into the ground. Secondly, find a way of playing less games. Perhaps by splitting Leagues in two after 19 games either by region (and then having 'super play-offs') or into top and bottom half with the top 10 playing for 2 promotion places and the bottom 10 to avoid relegation, thus everyone plays 10 less games. |
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Post by PippaD on Dec 31, 2020 10:52:47 GMT
As with Chris and the FA Alliance, myself and the Southern League are constantly reviewing all the possible permutations and combinations.
This has been in conjunction with Northern Premier and Isthmian Leagues, although as you will have noticed the Northern Premier League decided to halt their pause.
We have Board meetings scheduled to further discuss options B, C, D etc and rest assured, all possible options are on the table.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Dec 31, 2020 15:35:54 GMT
Northern Premier League seams to have reimposed the halt.
Really hope a unified approach to completing the season can be found.
Much more important is keeping everyone safe, well & alive. If the vaccines work maybe a late finish say mid June/July with no play offs may be possible. If not we can sacrifice one more season & get back to near normal hopefully for 2021-22.
Least we forget, twice in the 20th century. 1914-18 & 1939-45 they had to live without football & a lot more besides, to ensure freedom survived. So a little longer endurance & sensible behaviour, will see us back to near normal much more quickly.
Wishing all Poole Town fans all the best for 2021. And hopefully not too long until we are back in grounds shouting COYD 🐬!
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Post by bearwoodbob on Dec 31, 2020 20:15:12 GMT
Really good and reasoned posts on this thread.HoweverI0 fear we are 2 / 3 weeks away from the next peak. That rules out January. There is no travel allowed in Tier 4 other than the permitted exceptions and I fear we will continue in Tier 4 to the end of February. Is it worth / reasonable asking teams to resume sometime towards end of March. However many options are considered I have a feeling of dire outcomes.
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Post by happyhammer on Jan 4, 2021 22:09:32 GMT
After tonight's announcement by Boris it's looking like however the season goes there will be no restart untill at least March end which makes it very highly unlikely that the season shall be completed .COYD.
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Post by WelshDolphin on Jan 5, 2021 0:08:45 GMT
Anyone have any thoughts about trying to complete the season? Should we just resign ourselves to it not finishing again now?
Given that last season was "Null and void" and as a result (technically) did not happen, is there any way that those results (when we played the same sides) could be combined with those from this season to give a PPG League table to form some kind of play-offs to at least reward performance over that time?
At a bit of a loss otherwise. Another year at this level when things looked so good and the team deserving so much more.
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Post by John Anderson on Jan 5, 2021 8:01:56 GMT
There are a number of ways the season could end but at the moment there is so much uncertainty that any play this season looks unlikely, Her are some I can think of: * Expunge the season, As last year, declare all results expunched as if the season never started. * Continue the seaosn. However to comp;ete a full season would need each club playing 32/33 starting from mid February at the earliest. Tbis would almost certainly mean an extension to the season and a delayed start to next season. The season usaully officially ends on May 31st so that mean a minimum of 32 games in 15 weeks. That asumes a restart on Feb 20th. Of course the chance of getting back on 20th Feb is highly unlikey and so 3 games per week would be likely or an extension to the season, again impacting next season. *Average points or points per game. This uses the average number of points per game to deside the league. Last yeat that would have promoted Truro, this year it would be us and the PPG league table can be found below the currenmt leaugue table HERE However with less that a quatrter of the seaosn compete this is hardly fair. * Split the current table and play two mini leagues, top ten in one groupo and bottom 10 in the other. The topten play each other for promotion and the bottom 10 to aviud relegation.As with the points per game idea above, there is so much of the season left that it would be unfair to divide the league at this point. * Harder to achieve but maybe fairer would be an amalgamation of last year and this year, naking almosr a complete season THere woui;d be some issues in calculating the final league as results against Blackfield and Langley would have to be removed and maybe those against Merthyr. However there would be real problems and maybe legal action as having been expunged, it would be unfair to reinstate last season's results. Of course the season could (and possibly should) be expunged again but then the National League have continued playing and it seems wrong that no promotion or relegation happens again. My idea would be to split the league in two, as above then have two knoclout tournaments. Each would be atrranged so the the higher teams have an advantage. Mu opinion. Expunge the season again OR run this season over two seasons. |
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Post by bearwoodbob on Jan 6, 2021 11:29:32 GMT
With the expected Vaccine Rollout Phase 1 only extending to over 65 's there seems no chance of a season restart. So much for a brighter 2021 !!!
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), we have to extend the season to the end of May if that is practical as we will just run out of time and run players into the ground.