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Post by lucas1971 on Mar 8, 2019 15:01:40 GMT
What an absolute credit to our club this man is....
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Post by parky on Mar 8, 2019 16:41:35 GMT
Yeah ,14 years in charge,numourous promotions & cups,semi final of the vase.... he certainly is.
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Post by scorpio on Mar 8, 2019 18:00:23 GMT
Time to get the loft ladder out.
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Post by RobTheShirt on Mar 8, 2019 18:04:57 GMT
What an absolute credit to our club this man is.... He's nothing to do with Wimborne?
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Post by expat on Mar 8, 2019 18:06:25 GMT
The FA has to protect the Refs; who would want the thankless task anyway. Not exactly TK's first time up either is it?
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Mar 8, 2019 18:23:09 GMT
What about protecting the game from match officials that either aren't any good or who act like they should be the centre of attention at every match. I give respect to most match officials but those that are quite clearly have an agenda will receive a different form of respect from me.
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Post by happyhammer on Mar 8, 2019 18:33:24 GMT
Agree with both Expat and Choirboy Dave but regards TK whatever he said(or did)to get a 6 match ban is not excusable.TK has been in the game far far to long not to know that decision s do not all ways go your way!!!.As for match officials sure the FA.shall protect them and support them for all the right reasons but they have also got to understand that the main problem we have in our beloved national game is inconsistency and untill that is somehow addressed by the FA.lack of discipline both on and off the pitch wont change.Going back to TK situ its very unfortunate not only for the man himself but for the players officials and of course us very loyal supporters.COYD.
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Post by lucas1971 on Mar 8, 2019 18:36:59 GMT
I appreciate what Tommy has done for this club, hes worked wonders. But this isn’t his first offence and doesn’t reflect well to a ‘family club’.
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Post by Steve47 on Mar 8, 2019 21:01:51 GMT
Yeah ,14 years in charge,numourous promotions & cups,semi final of the vase.... he certainly is. And the 'late' Stadium days when he played for us too!
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Post by loneranger on Mar 8, 2019 21:10:26 GMT
There is no doubt that referees deserve respect and must be protected by the FA however for the second sending-off, in my opinion the referee made a mistake. Sadly referees are human and we have to except their mistakes but there is no doubt that other managers get away with murder while Tom only has to open his mouth these days. Example is the Beaconsfield Manager Last week. Had Tom continualy baited the ref in that way, he would have been off before you could have said Red and White bobble hat.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Mar 8, 2019 21:20:10 GMT
There is no doubt that referees deserve respect and must be protected by the FA however for the second sending-off, in my opinion the referee made a mistake. Sadly referees are human and we have to except their mistakes but there is no doubt that other managers get away with murder while Tom only has to open his mouth these days. Example is the Beaconsfield Manager Last week. Had Tom continualy baited the ref in that way, he would have been off before you could have said Red and White bobble hat. No love lost between TK and the guy in charge. But why appoint a referee from Weymouth. Especially one with previous both with TK and PT.
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Post by BD on Mar 8, 2019 23:00:55 GMT
Those who criticize match officials, I urge you to take the course, learn the laws of the game and take up the whistle. I can assure you it is enlightening.
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Post by John Anderson on Mar 9, 2019 8:48:36 GMT
Whatever the rights and wrongs it could have been worse. With Tom’s record it could have gone past the end of the season.
I have to agree with BD (always a first Tony). I read some of the FIFA rules recently and it was enlighning to the point where I now correct people when they disagree with some decisions.
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Post by John Anderson on Mar 9, 2019 10:15:13 GMT
It is a thankless task being a referee. A little knowledge can ba a dangerous zhgzzthing. With the art of tackling almost a dying art, it seems that shirt pulling and the “6 yard box embrace” is now a accepted. Of course a full bloodied but legal tackle is now bound to enrage fans.
The shoulder charge is also an anomaly. The only piece of violence on the pitch that is legal.
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Post by rob bayston on Mar 10, 2019 18:58:00 GMT
I understand BD sentiments but I passed my driving test, but it’s doesn’t make me an F1 driver, the game is about opinion, when we win most say Ref had a good game, when we loose he was awful !!!!
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Post by BD on Mar 10, 2019 21:21:36 GMT
I understand BD sentiments but I passed my driving test, but it’s doesn’t make me an F1 driver, the game is about opinion, when we win most say Ref had a good game, when we loose he was awful !!!! Not the best analogy Rob, when you pass the referee course you intend to become a referee, when you pass your driving test it just means you can drive a car. If you want to become an F1 driver, you train for it, just like those who want to referee. Yes, opinions form part of the game, you can say " the ref had a shocker..." doesn't mean he did, that's just your opinion. In my experience, those who participated in a referees course, and then took the whistle and flag then understand what it's like. Learning the laws of the game is one thing, application is another. There are so many nuances to the game, things happen in a split second, and the referee/assistant referee has to react and make a decision, not always the right one, but they make a decision based on what they see and the angle they are viewing. The majority of the time the referee gets it right, stats based on the laws of the game can prove that.
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Post by expat on Mar 11, 2019 7:00:41 GMT
Time to get the loft ladder out. How many more seasons of this nonsense are the punters expected to endure?
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Post by graygraeme on Mar 11, 2019 15:11:21 GMT
I understand BD sentiments but I passed my driving test, but it’s doesn’t make me an F1 driver, the game is about opinion, when we win most say Ref had a good game, when we loose he was awful !!!! Not the best analogy Rob, when you pass the referee course you intend to become a referee, when you pass your driving test it just means you can drive a car. If you want to become an F1 driver, you train for it, just like those who want to referee. Yes, opinions form part of the game, you can say " the ref had a shocker..." doesn't mean he did, that's just your opinion. In my experience, those who participated in a referees course, and then took the whistle and flag then understand what it's like. Learning the laws of the game is one thing, application is another. There are so many nuances to the game, things happen in a split second, and the referee/assistant referee has to react and make a decision, not always the right one, but they make a decision based on what they see and the angle they are viewing. The majority of the time the referee gets it right, stats based on the laws of the game can prove that. so if the referees get it right the majority of times then why the need for VAR? and these are supposed to be the TOP refereees
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Post by hartlyhare on Mar 11, 2019 17:30:15 GMT
Dose the ban include the Dorset Senior cup?
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Mar 11, 2019 18:48:26 GMT
Dose the ban include the Dorset Senior cup? If the weather forecast is correct it won't be tomorrow anyway.
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Post by BD on Mar 11, 2019 22:34:17 GMT
Not the best analogy Rob, when you pass the referee course you intend to become a referee, when you pass your driving test it just means you can drive a car. If you want to become an F1 driver, you train for it, just like those who want to referee. Yes, opinions form part of the game, you can say " the ref had a shocker..." doesn't mean he did, that's just your opinion. In my experience, those who participated in a referees course, and then took the whistle and flag then understand what it's like. Learning the laws of the game is one thing, application is another. There are so many nuances to the game, things happen in a split second, and the referee/assistant referee has to react and make a decision, not always the right one, but they make a decision based on what they see and the angle they are viewing. The majority of the time the referee gets it right, stats based on the laws of the game can prove that. so if the referees get it right the majority of times then why the need for VAR? and these are supposed to be the TOP refereees Did I say referees were perfect and never made mistakes? You ever made a mistake?
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Post by graygraeme on Mar 12, 2019 9:04:28 GMT
No you said they are right the majority of the time, and yes we all mistakes but when it’s happening regularly something needs to be looked at
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Mar 12, 2019 19:11:07 GMT
Is the DSC match v Weymouth (if it is ever played!) included in the ban? If it is TK will be back in the dugout at the match at home to Basingstoke Town on Saturday 13th April. If not he will be back on Easter Saturday when we travel to Imber Court to take on the Metropolitan Police.
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Post by BD on Mar 12, 2019 20:08:46 GMT
No you said they are right the majority of the time, and yes we all mistakes but when it’s happening regularly something needs to be looked at Referees are constantly being looked at. They don't just turn up on a Saturday afternoon, run around for 90 mins and collect their expenses. They do train and prepare for every game. Referees train individually and also attend group training sessions and seminars. They are observed regularly, I know this to be a fact as I have attended many of these training sessions and seminars, I am also a referee observer. Referees make mistakes, it happens, to say otherwise would be false. What do you want from a referee? Perfection? If so then I'm sorry you will never ever get it. Officials strive to be the best they can, in fact they are their own harshest critic, I know I am. So to say something needs to be done, it already is. It's an ongoing process to develop and improve refereeing across the county and the country as a whole. I urge/encourage you to participate in the referee course. If not to take up the whistle on a regular basis, but to get an insight into what it's like, understand the laws of the game and know how to apply them. I can tell you from experience it's not easy.
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Post by graygraeme on Mar 14, 2019 13:10:29 GMT
I’m sure it’s not easy and I’d admire anyone that wants to be a referee as they are always going to be wrong in one set of supporters eyes, but some of the decisions I’ve seen this season have been worse than some I’ve witnessed at my sons matches this season by people who aren’t even supposed to be qualified
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