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Post by RobTheShirt on Dec 8, 2018 14:20:29 GMT
It is very obvious that certain people use the anonymity of their forum name to stir up trouble and denigrate the efforts and ability of players, staff, board members and anyone else they can think of. It is my belief that if someone has something contentious to say, they should at least be brave enough to put their name to it. Most of us have had our forum names for a long time and the majority of them are easily linked to the owner after all this time. I'm not suggesting that forum names be removed but would suggest that everyone's real name and/or email should be visible for all to see. Can I propose that the moderators set up a poll to see if this is the majority will of the forum members. If anyone cares to discuss it with me, I'm always available in the shop at home games or on the coach at away games
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Post by cheeseo on Dec 8, 2018 14:30:36 GMT
Fine by me ,nothing to hide....Scarlett pimpernel
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Post by deano is a dolphin on Dec 8, 2018 16:44:22 GMT
I agree,I think everyone can see who I am.
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Post by grandad on Dec 8, 2018 17:25:06 GMT
No probs with me..... Grandad....aka Norman Buttress
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Post by conferenceorbust on Dec 8, 2018 17:33:02 GMT
No issues here. Chappo .
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Post by snapper on Dec 8, 2018 18:19:57 GMT
I rarely post, I'm a lurker in the background. My view on this is, I don't think it is a good idea. I have seen this initiated on another forum and it killed it pretty much. With anonimity, people can say things they wouldn't normally say if their identity is known. These views might be obnoxious, stirring, trolling or just downright rubbish to some. More than likely something they would never say to your face in say, the pub. It gives a poster freedom to post what they want without fear of retribution. You may find this unreasonable and cowardly, I fully undestand that. What I have seen elsewhere is, it makes a forum sterile, boring, it takes away the fire, the argueing because everybody agrees with each other, as they don't want to be labled a trouble maker, a stirrer etc. so they don't post, it gets dull. Yes, it can get volatile with posters getting stressed with each other but hey, nothing gets out of hand. I totally understand the openess arguement but, as I said earlier having experienced it at first hand I wouldn't advise it. Yours The man with no name!
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Post by scorpio on Dec 8, 2018 19:03:23 GMT
I thought that the forum was supposed to be a bit of fun. Let's not start scrutinising or doing DNA profiles.When somebody fires up it can make the banter entertaining. Dubchek, god rest his soul, was a past master at being controversial and giving us a bit of laughter at the same time.Somebody once wrote on here that players got upset about things they read on the forum. Let's hope they were joking.
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Post by deano is a dolphin on Dec 8, 2018 19:08:32 GMT
But we are a family club, we all have the right to criticise if we are not happy, singling out individuals is a bit naughty but everyone has a player they don't like. I got slaughtered on here a few years ago by someone who was hiding under a pseudonym offered to buy me a pint when he next seen me, but completely ignored me. Grow some balls me thinks.
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Post by expat on Dec 8, 2018 19:34:32 GMT
No probs with me..... Grandad....aka Norman Buttress Holy Smokes Grandad and there was me thinking you were Norman Strachan. When he was good he was very very good(sweeping tound the outside) When he was bad he was horrid!! UP THE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!
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Post by expat on Dec 8, 2018 19:40:20 GMT
Chris Saunders. Pooleite from a long line of Pooleites
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Post by graygraeme on Dec 9, 2018 9:50:52 GMT
Good idea, why be scared of upsetting people after all its forum and everyone is entitled to say what they want regardless of what people think, after all I’ve said this time and time again we might not all agree with each other but we all (well at least I think) want the same thing which is to support Poole Town fc
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Post by PippaD on Dec 9, 2018 11:46:07 GMT
I get notified when people post and Wewillsee posted at 11:15 some negative comments ( I only get to read the first line in notification!) but it appears to have gone. Just so you know I didn’t delete it in case he thinks I did. I look forward to his further criticism so he can see I am not one of the “one or two who cannot take it” ;-) Pippa Daniels 👍🐬
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Post by expat on Dec 9, 2018 13:20:34 GMT
Good idea, why be scared of upsetting people after all its forum and everyone is entitled to say what they want regardless of what people think, after all I’ve said this time and time again we might not all agree with each other but we all (well at least I think) want the same thing which is to support Poole Town fc Well said Graeme. Every word of it and especially the last phrase. COYD
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Post by RobTheShirt on Dec 9, 2018 16:26:36 GMT
I rarely post, I'm a lurker in the background. With anonimity, people can say things they wouldn't normally say if their identity is known. These views might be obnoxious, stirring, trolling or just downright rubbish to some. More than likely something they would never say to your face in say, the pub. It gives a poster freedom to post what they want without fear of retribution. I understand where you're coming from Simon but I don't entirely agree. At present, we get plenty of differing points of view and disagreements between people who are well known to each other and to us all.
I don't believe this will change because these members are posting from a fairly obvious forum name to make their point. It's the ones who hide behind an obscure name and use it to make snide or malicious comments that I'd like to deter.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Dec 9, 2018 16:45:58 GMT
I tend to take posts from people who are easily identified by either their forum name or picture with it more seriously. To that end I have just added a picture of myself. Taken at Dorchester last October by our excellent club photographer Andy Orman. Those who use names that are non de plumes I tend to take less seriously. Whether they be in praise or criticism of the club. Doesn't mean that their post is less valid than anyone else's, it is just my response to it that is different. So if you want me to take what you post on here more seriously you know what to do. If you don't then carry on with your anonymity. So if there were a poll on here then I would choose the remain as we are option.
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Post by snapper on Dec 11, 2018 18:18:05 GMT
But would it deter the ones who spit venom Rob? If I were one, I could register with one of my little used email addresses under the name of say John Smith. Looks authentic and off I go. For me, the only way you can get people to stop being nasty is to ban them. Maybe three strikes and you are out. Say, a week ban after a warning, followed by a month ban and after the third offence banned for life. If they re register and start spewing vitriol again, the banning process starts again. Although I think you can identify somebody by their i p address ......... Whatever that is!!! Cheers Simon.
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Post by Steve47 on Dec 11, 2018 19:47:28 GMT
Good idea Rob, especially with the amount of problems we had in the early days of the forum....
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Dec 11, 2018 21:04:22 GMT
Good to hear from you again Steve.
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Post by Steve47 on Dec 12, 2018 8:19:16 GMT
Good to hear from you again Steve. Haha, it's been too long!! What with a move to a new house and a change in work circumstances for my wife we are unable to get to Bath and so we return to our beloved Poole Town starting on Saturday...#cantwait I trust you are well Brian?
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Post by BD on Dec 12, 2018 13:35:20 GMT
Unless it is offensive, abusive and or insulting. Then my opinion is leave it as it is.
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Post by andyparker1 on Dec 27, 2018 3:30:51 GMT
As someone who posts occasionally, but seldom that negatively, I think it is a shame if you have to leave full details of who you are - I post under my correct name, so that should be enough for those who know me and for those who don't, well I prefer to keep it that way. I think that once you start to make too many rules, then no-one wants to actually contribute - if a post starts to jump to the personal attack on other users or OTT personal insults of players, staff or managers, then it is time for a moderator to come in and either remove the post or warn the poster of their conduct. Banning someone who steps beyond a certain line is fine too - racist, sexist or homophobic stuff or offensive posts are never acceptable for instance.
Either way I don't see why any poster should have to put their face or home address, e-mails on the posts, and I don't see that many OTT posts on this forum.
To give you an example of what can happen, I also post under the same name on the main tennis fans website Andrew Murray Message Board, as I have always followed tennis a lot and go up to Wimbledon each year. At once stage there was a lengthy debate about who should get wildcards in the women's section and I said I didn't think the elderly American journeywoman, Mattek Sands should get one (as there were so many excellent young British women) - at this point I was called a troll simply for being male and commenting in the women's section, even though I am listed as my correct name, Andy Parker) and because I didn't think Mattek Sands was any good - the personal insults flew, and I was upset as I had posted honestly and simply because I was interested in the subject.
I also remember being a bit hurt on here and getting a lot of criticism on here a few years ago when I said that the ground just wasn't up to scratch, and that the problems of drainage and waterlogged pitches were going to mean a fixture pile up which would cost us promotion (which they did) - again a barrage of criticism that I was denigrating the hard work off the field of everyone at the club. If I had to put my name and address on the post, that is the point I would have stopped posting - fair enough if you want that, but it does restrict debate.
I think those that want to say something negative, but to discuss things in an adult and polite and respectful way, should be allowed to do that, so that is my humble opinion. Respect those that disagree, but sometimes to voice your opinion respectfully and in a considered measure on a forum for instance is nicer that going up to a groundsman and shouting out that he is a waste of space, or of not talking about issues you would like to see resolved.
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Post by settman on Dec 27, 2018 14:21:15 GMT
As someone who posts occasionally, but seldom that negatively, I think it is a shame if you have to leave full details of who you are - I post under my correct name, so that should be enough for those who know me and for those who don't, well I prefer to keep it that way. I think that once you start to make too many rules, then no-one wants to actually contribute - if a post starts to jump to the personal attack on other users or OTT personal insults of players, staff or managers, then it is time for a moderator to come in and either remove the post or warn the poster of their conduct. Banning someone who steps beyond a certain line is fine too - racist, sexist or homophobic stuff or offensive posts are never acceptable for instance. Either way I don't see why any poster should have to put their face or home address, e-mails on the posts, and I don't see that many OTT posts on this forum. To give you an example of what can happen, I also post under the same name on the main tennis fans website Andrew Murray Message Board, as I have always followed tennis a lot and go up to Wimbledon each year. At once stage there was a lengthy debate about who should get wildcards in the women's section and I said I didn't think the elderly American journeywoman, Mattek Sands should get one (as there were so many excellent young British women) - at this point I was called a troll simply for being male and commenting in the women's section, even though I am listed as my correct name, Andy Parker) and because I didn't think Mattek Sands was any good - the personal insults flew, and I was upset as I had posted honestly and simply because I was interested in the subject. I also remember being a bit hurt on here and getting a lot of criticism on here a few years ago when I said that the ground just wasn't up to scratch, and that the problems of drainage and waterlogged pitches were going to mean a fixture pile up which would cost us promotion (which they did) - again a barrage of criticism that I was denigrating the hard work off the field of everyone at the club. If I had to put my name and address on the post, that is the point I would have stopped posting - fair enough if you want that, but it does restrict debate. I think those that want to say something negative, but to discuss things in an adult and polite and respectful way, should be allowed to do that, so that is my humble opinion. Respect those that disagree, but sometimes to voice your opinion respectfully and in a considered measure on a forum for instance is nicer that going up to a groundsman and shouting out that he is a waste of space, or of not talking about issues you would like to see resolved. I agree with you,fans forums are just that,places for fans to vent their anger or heap their praise or just have an opinion. Those few wanting to out people for having an opinion seem to think it fine to be derogatory to forum members because you can see their real name and be personal, yet alot of the so called moaners on here talk in general and are not personal, and its getting a little boring having the same people making comments letting us know its their real name, all rather childish
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