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Post by stfcinbmth on Oct 11, 2008 20:56:27 GMT
::)One of the most worrying stories I've come across in recent weeks Ministers are considering a £12 billion plan to monitor the e-mail, telephone and internet browsing records of every person in Britain. The huge eavesdropping programme would involve the creation of a mammoth central computer database to store hundreds of billions of individual pieces of communications traffic. Supporters say it would become one of the security services' most comprehensive tools in the fight against terrorism but critics described it as "sinister". tinyurl.com/4hxdpuGiven their penchant for losing hard drives, usb sticks, laptops and CD's we should all be very worried by this It's pretty much 100% guaranteed that at some point the info will fall into the wrong hands And it will be our taxes funding this nonsense
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Post by sterteroad on Oct 11, 2008 21:08:47 GMT
It's already been happening for years. The Sunday Times discovered it years ago. Involves us, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, allegedly :-) called Echelon, allegedly
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Post by stfcinbmth on Oct 11, 2008 21:12:48 GMT
It's already been happening for years. The Sunday Times discovered it years ago. Involves us, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, allegedly :-) called Echelon, allegedly Scary though sterte ain't it?
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Post by expat on Oct 12, 2008 3:04:37 GMT
stick to the things that are most important....I got this advice from an old london copper...one of the reasons for me.. The PTFC of yesteryear are gone but the spirit of support that I had as a youth is strong enough that today I see the great potential that our renewed organisation has. I am sure that this upsurge is to the benefit of the team AND to the supporters This is borne out by the success of this website. TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!!!!!!
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Post by stfcinbmth on Oct 12, 2008 8:28:20 GMT
stick to the things that are most important....I got this advice from an old london copper...one of the reasons for me.. The PTFC of yesteryear are gone but the spirit of support that I had as a youth is strong enough that today I see the great potential that our renewed organisation has. I am sure that this upsurge is to the benefit of the team AND to the supporters This is borne out by the success of this website. TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!!!!!! Errrm expat, this is the off topic forum and I thought some of our readers might have found it interesting
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Post by m3dolphin on Oct 12, 2008 13:49:36 GMT
Our freedom and rights are slowly being eroded away, let's face it to some the pub was always a place to go for a drink and a ciggie/cigar - couldn't they have thought about it and had one bar smoking and the other non smoking ?. On the same line If you had said 20 years ago that a workman would not have been able to smoke in his own work van you would have been labeled a nutter. I've recently witnessed a Friend moving his taxi up on the rank and because he had a lit ciggie in his mouth a council worker took photos of him from across the road and consequently he was fined.
By the way I'm a non smoker, I don't like the habit but don't people have a choice ?
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Post by stfcinbmth on Oct 12, 2008 16:37:09 GMT
Our freedom and rights are slowly being eroded away, let's face it to some the pub was always a place to go for a drink and a ciggie/cigar - couldn't they have thought about it and had one bar smoking and the other non smoking ?. On the same line If you had said 20 years ago that a workman would not have been able to smoke in his own work van you would have been labeled a nutter. I've recently witnessed a Friend moving his taxi up on the rank and because he had a lit ciggie in his mouth a council worker took photos of him from across the road and consequently he was fined. By the way I'm a non smoker, I don't like the habit but don't people have a choice ? We should have a choice, I'm a smoker but I do agree it's a disgusting habit and I'm banished to the garage when I want one at home, which isn't so bad as the beer fridge is out there But yes surely they could have implemented smoking and non smoking pubs, leaving it up to the landlord. As a consequence the pub trade is dying on it's feet
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Post by sterteroad on Oct 13, 2008 7:48:34 GMT
Have been asked to cover up my RAF uniform in the past, as it could offend people! What price freedom? It's a sad world, even as an ex-smoker that the smoking areas in pubs(which usually had the extractors) etc have gone, people had the choice not to go in there. Fed up with this nanny state.
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Post by parky on Oct 13, 2008 16:13:14 GMT
Thats disgracful sterte ! You have my utmost admiration.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Oct 13, 2008 16:39:49 GMT
Just for the record stfcinbmth, I agree with what you said at the start of this post - you're right to be worried.
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