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Post by sterteroad on Sept 21, 2008 19:47:02 GMT
Have just had a quick look at the Wimborne forum, you really have to blow off the cobwebs there, really not used much. They seem to think that they can finish second!! and if it's us who are champions, our ground will not be up to the required standard and they'll go up. They obviously don't look at our site then.
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Post by steve47 on Sept 21, 2008 20:24:48 GMT
Lets have a look then! They have played 6, Won 3, Drawn 1 and LOST 2. We have played 8 and WON 8! I don't see how they think they are to finish second? perhaps they mean second from bottom! As for the ground standard at least ours doesn't slope! and they wouldn't get promotion 'cos they are all too grumpy as you are not allowed to enjoy yourselves at any of their games! (A jobsworth in a yellow coat springs to mind!)
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Sept 22, 2008 9:54:01 GMT
I don't suppose that we should tempt fate too often by saying that we're going to win the league at this early stage but it is a serious issue. If we are are top and Moneyfields or VT, for example, finish second their grounds may well be up to scratch. As I have said several times on the forum we do need to be assured at some point that either Tatnam can be brought up to standard OR that the Branksome Rec project will be finished in time for 2009-2010. Last season the club applied for promotion and we were assured by Chris Reeves - who I trust totally - that the ground could be improved enough within the time limit to meet Step 4 requirements. I have every confidence that the management of the club will have the matter in hand and will inform us in good time that every thing will be okay should we become champions. Meanwhile I guess we should just carry on enjoying it all!
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Post by Steve Bean on Sept 22, 2008 10:45:34 GMT
Just to add something to what you are saying Brian. This time last season the Football Club was confident that Tatnam could be upgraded to Level 4 requirements. This was based on the spec that the FA had provided to the Club.
However, when representatives came to the ground to do their inspection they actually had a NEW rule for Level 4 grading which they admitted the Club would have been unaware of previously. That is, and I'm not quite sure the exact measurements, but there must not be anymore than 10 meteres (15??) of open space from pitch to ground boundary. And obviously at Tatnam, the length of the pitch nearest the car park has a huge open space as it's the rest of the school pitches. This meant it would fail the ground grading for Level 4. (but actually give the Club a stronger reason for Branksome to go ahead).
Even if Branksome goes ahead it certainly won't be ready for start of next season so if we did qualify for promotion then we would be at Tatnam anyway (and longer if Branksome doesn't go ahead).
I believe there are several options being looked at to resolving the open space on the fourth side of the pitch but I'm guessing it would have to be the temporary erection and dismantling of something before and after every game as a permanent barrier is unlikely (if not impossible).
I think I've got this just about right (Chris, Steve H, Rob or anyone please correct where necessary!!).
Cheers,
Steve
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Post by doughug on Sept 22, 2008 12:20:46 GMT
That seems a pretty good summary based on my understanding, in terms of the requirements, the way in which we found out about them and thoughts to date about a potential solution.
I suspect there may be several examples of clubs in Step 4 or above that don't meet these requirements, but what normally happens is that existing clubs are "grandfathered" either for a limited period in which to resolve things, or indefinitely until they get relegated far enough for the new rules to then be applied if they want to get back up.
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Post by chrisreeves on Sept 22, 2008 12:33:31 GMT
steve has got it right---the new rule could well help us with branksome rec--we would otherwise have been able to satisfy the criteria-it would have been expensive and made great demands-on volunteers-we will need a lot more if promotion at tatnam is to be achieved we are researching the issue again and will put a scheme to the school and council cost and practicality are high on th agenda cost would not be a huge factor if we knew we were staying but it could of course just be for one season if the rec comes off that quickly--and when that happens the club will be expected to contribute a great deal of money--you can see therefore that there are a huge number of issues rest assured no club could have a more ambitious board /manager we will do all we can to achieve ----balancing all aspects as we must
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Post by bh12 on Sept 22, 2008 12:49:23 GMT
"no club could have a more ambitious board /manager"
Trusted totally.
If this hierarchy can't continue the clubs progress over recent years (on and off the park), I’d like to see who can.
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Post by chrisreeves on Sept 22, 2008 15:31:34 GMT
Many thanks-the trust of the supporters is a vital part in all this - you guys are the reason why we are where we are and why we will ultimately go on to better things.Without you there would be no point
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Sept 23, 2008 11:53:16 GMT
What a dilemma! So, it can be done but not if we move to Branksome too soon because we'll need large resources for that! I think we all share bh12's view about the present regime. Let's hope they can, as chris indicates they are trying to, find an acceptable and feasible scheme. Maybe the club should consider launching a "Promotion Appeal".
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Sept 23, 2008 11:53:48 GMT
What a dilemma! So, it can be done but not if we move to Branksome too soon because we'll need large resources for that! I think we all share bh12's view about the present regime. Let's hope they can, as chris indicates they are trying to, find an acceptable and feasible scheme. Maybe the club should consider launching a "Promotion Appeal".
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Post by sterteroad on Sept 23, 2008 12:15:42 GMT
With the Board, Team and Supporters all together, the only outcome will be a resounding two fingers up to our "friends" up the road. As my company motto says Per Ardua Ad Astra :-)
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Post by m3dolphin on Sept 23, 2008 15:09:52 GMT
Not sure if promotion is going to be as clear cut as the table suggests. We've done brilliantly so far and we couldn't wish for more, but I feel an immediate threat comes from VTFC and Moneyfields, both very good teams going by last season's performances. Then there are some teams below that could mount a challenge aswell as an outsider breaking from a false position, like, dare I say it, Wimborne or Hamworthy. If Hamworthy push on in the FA Cup the extra revenue and prestige of being in the Cup could help them strengthen their side. Just some thoughts.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Sept 25, 2008 10:15:37 GMT
I think that because promotion from the WPL into the SL is so hard - realistically only one side can go up unlike the rest of the pyramid where there are play-off positions to go for - if there is any chance at all of finishing top we should go all out for it which means getting Tatnam up to standard in time for next season. How disappointed would we be to finish first and then be denied promotion? It's happened before!
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