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Post by Choirboy Dave on Aug 19, 2016 13:17:12 GMT
...and a google search reveals about 6 pages on the afcb forum under the heading 'Poole Stadium" what do they see that we don't??? Wonder how many councilors or senior officers on Poole Borough Council are either AFCB fans or have accepted hospitality at Dean Court. Nothing wrong in either, but surely these are conflicts of interest. But if openly declared needn't be a barrier, just so long as such interests are out in the open. Wonder how many PBC councilors are regulars at Tatnam?
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Post by expat on Aug 20, 2016 0:43:05 GMT
wouldn't it be the ultimate in irony if afcb got the Stadium or the land it sits on?? They play in Poole and we are out in the boondocks somewhere! No,on second thoughts it would the ultimate in treating PTFC as second class citizens We have been casting around for at least ten years and mostly at straws! Time to rally round a viable permanent venue
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Post by expat on Aug 22, 2016 11:52:18 GMT
BBC Sport headlines today AFC Wimbledon to return to Plough Lane. Read how this itinerant club are on the road to a great homecoming. Their story reflects ours in many ways. Incidentally, if memory serves me correct Wimbledon was our first fixture(away) when we won our hard fought promotion into the Southern League. Wimbledon were a well known non league club in those days and we drew. I was there. Our goalie was Mel Chandler perhaps someone has a programme or details of our other team members that day.
UP THE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!
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Post by John Anderson on Aug 22, 2016 14:58:58 GMT
...and a google search reveals about 6 pages on the afcb forum under the heading 'Poole Stadium" what do they see that we don't??? It is a case of what do they have that we don't, that is an owner that has a massive wallet. I cannot see how they can get it though as with the shortage of housing in Poole any development on this council owned site will have to include a large number of dwellings.
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Post by scorpio on Aug 23, 2016 18:38:39 GMT
Expat, the 0-0 draw away to Wimbledon was indeed the first game of our promotion season (64/65). We secured promotion by walloping Stevenage 6-0 in our last home game.A week before the season we played Southampton at home in a friendly and the squad of players listed in the programme was as follows; Mel Chandler, Tommy Mcghee, Barry Starks, Jim goldie, Irvin Brown, Colin Osmond, Pat Neil, Joe Hooley, Dennis Pring, Eddie Gray,Ray Swallow, Tony France, Jackie Henderson, Pat Donovan, Bobby Mason, Mickey Davock.Names you no doubt remember!.
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Post by expat on Aug 23, 2016 21:34:37 GMT
Thank you Scorpio. Some Great PTFC Legends there..Bobby Mason was once the record transfer fee guy when he played for Wolves I think. After a stint with Poole he went on to play for the then MUFC of the Dorset combination...Parley Sports!! Gents..Again I draw your attention to the BBC Sports today under the heading "Londons Last Greyhound Racing Stadium to close as AFC Wimbledon get set to return to Plough Lane. Perhaps a copy could pass across the desks of the appropriate Poole Authorities!!
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Post by towncrier on Aug 28, 2016 12:14:21 GMT
This is the link about AFCW and Plough Lane application,http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37155008
it is worth reading if you haven't. The irony here is of Tommy Cooper proportions, the local council and the London Mayor are on board and backing the club development. Thier big boy league neighbours Chelsea are also on board and giving them options and it happens to be a greyhound stadium they are looking to redevelop into a home stadium fit for the future! Why cant this be done for PTFC? Dare I suggest some Dolphins start running for council to help apply some visibility and pressure to a much neglected significant local problem?
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Post by expat on Aug 29, 2016 17:57:07 GMT
what would happen if we won promotion this season?? Not another "we can't go up due to ground issues" problem(remember those x 2??) This situation should be highlighted at our "Dolphin Centre" appearances with a placard showing the places in Poole that we have been turned away from. We go to the "Dolphin Centre and tell the punters we want to move miles out into suburbia,closer to Wimborne than Poole when there is a publicly owned arena less than a mile away!! does that make sense? .....and to make it even more senseless AFCB and their fans are casting covetous eyes on that place where some say we don't want to go. What would our credibility be if they got the Stadium? ??
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Post by Daniel Silk on Aug 29, 2016 18:58:19 GMT
No way would Bournemouth end up at Poole Stadium. The only reason AFCB might spread a story like that was if they wanted to frighten Bournemouth council that they might leave I would imagine if they wanted to leave dean court they would be looking at possible sites along the Wessex way or up near hurn airport, so it's a good idea to put pressure on the council that they might skip off to poole! So the Bournemouth council will be more helpful with the planning permission. Imagine your on Bournemoth Council and you let a Premiership Football Club walk away! political suicide. Can you imagine traffic in Wimborne road with a Premiership Football club there! Haaaaaa never gonna happen.
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Post by BD on Sept 7, 2016 11:30:51 GMT
It saddens me that no matter how well we do, no matter how much hard work gets put in by the club as a whole, it appears that PBC have no real interest in us. The reason why Bmth borough live AFCB so much is because of the revenue they bring in. What I mean by that is the fact because they are now on the global stage by being in the EPL, the world now know Bournemouth exists. Go back less than a decade when AFCB were on the brink, the council couldn't give two sh*ts if they disappeared and I'm pretty sure they would have jumped at the chance to sell off the land that Dean court sits on. It's the same with PBC, they bask in our glory of winning the SPL, but have no interest in helping us find a home. We have very limited funds, we play on a school field (until the lease runs out). In our current state this is as high as we will go. I love this club, I love it to my core, but what we need to maintain this standard is a new home, Tatnam is coming to the end of its life, the school don't want us, the residents around us grow restless with many wanting us to move. Where do we go? The stadium will not happen unless a very rich benefactor comes on board and buys the stadium, lock stock and barrel and revamps it for football purposes. That may happen but I very much doubt it at this time.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Sept 7, 2016 16:03:27 GMT
There is a council meeting concerning our planning application for Tatnam on Thursday 22nd September at 1pm. Chris made the suggestion that some of us attend in Poole Town colours to lend support if we can & to counter the residents that oppose us that turn up. This was at the supporters club AGM on Monday night.
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 8, 2016 13:44:47 GMT
There is a council meeting concerning our planning application for Tatnam on Thursday 22nd September at 1pm. Chris made the suggestion that some of us attend in Poole Town colours to lend support if we can & to counter the residents that oppose us that turn up. This was at the supporters club AGM on Monday night. This council meeting is it open to the public to give speeches for and against? If it is I'm happy to give a speech for the need of the planning application. On the same note I was looking at the planning application yesterday and reading the support and against it I wonder if the club are willing to approach the people who are against it and offer a free matchday experience at the club. One of the people against cited litter, foul language, the drum, floodlights etc. I know no everyone will be interested in football but Poole Town does a lot of work within the community with its soccer schools, all age teams and women football and maybe these people who object haven't seen the infrastructure and the family friendly atmosphere the club has painstaking built up over the years.
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Post by dave2 on Sept 8, 2016 14:53:26 GMT
I believe you can attend the meeting but only those people who have registered to support (or against) can speak for a very short time. I presume that someone from the Poole Town Board (Chairman or Vice Chairman etc will be speaking in support. If no one speaks in support it could be thrown out!!!!
This is very important for our future even in the present league
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Post by dave2 on Sept 8, 2016 14:59:48 GMT
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Sept 8, 2016 18:06:16 GMT
I believe you can attend the meeting but only those people who have registered to support (or against) can speak for a very short time. I presume that someone from the Poole Town Board (Chairman or Vice Chairman etc will be speaking in support. If no one speaks in support it could be thrown out!!!! This is very important for our future even in the present league Can you register to speak on the day? Also maybe we should take the Southern League Shield along with us to put in our corner to show we are a Poole sporting success trying to continue to greater glory which can only be good for the whole town the more national recognition that Poole Town FC get.
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 8, 2016 19:23:57 GMT
The spiritual home of PTFC is the Stadium. The Stadium was built in the great depression of the 1930's and allowed local sourced people to showcase their employment skills.
The council. PTFC and friends of the Town should be doing everything it can to put PTFC back in the Stadium.
Looking at the planning application its very disappointing to see The Society of Poole Men object the application. They should be publiclu supporting the return of the towns club to the stadium and in the meantime support the club in its temporary home.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Sept 8, 2016 19:31:11 GMT
Why do the Society Of Poole Men oppose the application?
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 8, 2016 19:42:36 GMT
Why do the Society Of Poole Men oppose the application? Have a look at the 2 objections by Mr G M Rigler. On behalf of The Society of Poole Men they have objected due to traffic and parking issues and that the school field should be used just for the school. I'll message Andrew Hawkes the Chair of The Society of Poole Men and get his thoughts on the subject. I'm really disappointed about this.
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Post by scorpio on Sept 8, 2016 22:01:17 GMT
I hope that the "Society of Poole " men are equally worried, and voice their concerns, over the proposed plans drawn up by the Council, to build on green belt, car parks, and playing fields right across the Borough. Traffic and car parking issues at the Tatnam would be an irrelevance in comparison.
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Post by benito on Sept 8, 2016 22:41:13 GMT
Groundhog day again! how many times have we been asked to go to a council meeting, to wear our scarfs and show support. Done it in the past, council meetings, meetings in the Arts Centre ect ect. We then wheel poor old Chris out again to basically beg the council for a little extra help to survive. I remember many years ago (it is probably still on the message board on page 4 or 5 when nobody ever looked at it) starting a thread with WDWGFH. We are in exactly the same position again. There is nowhere to go, except the STADIUM if anybody thinks there is a magic piece of land in the Borough that somebody will give us, then pay to build a decent conference standard ground and build a pub on well they are in need of psychiatric help! As Blandford Dolphin says he loves the club, well so do I, and so do a lot of others but for whatever reason the Council DO NOT. It really does feel we are at the end game I am very sorry to say. Cheeky prediction (which I truly hope will not come true) within 2/3 seasons we will be back in the Wessex League sharing with?? Holt and yes I will probably still go.
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Post by expat on Sept 9, 2016 12:08:46 GMT
Benito and BlandfordDolphin are speaking the truth. However we are NOT UNITED. Mr Bayston (doing a great job as colour commentator) said that people like us are dreaming in Technicolor and its just not going to happen!! So if our BOD are still chasing windmills what chance do we have?? A successful PTFC at the Stadium,the only viable option from a public transport perspective at least,would act as a noticeable asset to the town from a purely commercial POV AFC Wimbledon have done it and good luck to them What benefit attains to the physical well being of Poole's youth does letting out of a publicly owned arena to dog racing and speedway. Is there anyone on the Pirates team that was born within 50 miles of Wimborne Rd. that is if they can figure out who is riding under the skull and crossbones on any given meeting. Someone made a suggestion that a Dolphins supporter should run for council, Not such a way out idea IMHO After the Branksome Rec failure Cllr Eades said that he wanted to help us. Now is his chance However if we are not UNITED on where we want to go our efforts will be easily brought down
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 9, 2016 13:06:14 GMT
I know a few councillors and am talking to them about supporting the plans. I've also contacted The Society of Poole Men to complain about its objections.
There is no point what so ever contacting our MP. Robert probably A) wouldnt know where we played and B) What colours we play in.
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 9, 2016 13:09:24 GMT
Benito and BlandfordDolphin are speaking the truth. However we are NOT UNITED. Mr Bayston (doing a great job as colour commentator) said that people like us are dreaming in Technicolor and its just not going to happen!! So if our BOD are still chasing windmills what chance do we have?? A successful PTFC at the Stadium,the only viable option from a public transport perspective at least,would act as a noticeable asset to the town from a purely commercial POV AFC Wimbledon have done it and good luck to them What benefit attains to the physical well being of Poole's youth does letting out of a publicly owned arena to dog racing and speedway. Is there anyone on the Pirates team that was born within 50 miles of Wimborne Rd. that is if they can figure out who is riding under the skull and crossbones on any given meeting. Someone made a suggestion that a Dolphins supporter should run for council, Not such a way out idea IMHO After the Branksome Rec failure Cllr Eades said that he wanted to help us. Now is his chance However if we are not UNITED on where we want to go our efforts will be easily brought down We could however go into a joint venture with a propert developer akin to EM's plans for Poole Stadium. Plenty of property developers in Poole who might want to get into a JV with us.
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 9, 2016 16:00:09 GMT
Been having a conversation with Poole People Party today and am shocked at there response. We go into a planning application committee and a part of Poole Council don't know the full facts of our problem.
I asked Poole People what there stance was on Poole Town FC
regarding
a) playing at the Tatnam short term and expanding for the current short term needs
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b) getting the club back into the stadium
There response word for word
"We would like to see them back in the stadium but the club's owners are not keen. They have loftier ambitions and do not think the stadium will be big enough for them in the longer term "
I have responded with this
"no, They think the Tatnam isn't big enough for them. They know its a temporary home and need to upgrade to the required league standard of ground grading. The long term goal is to return to the stadium.
perhaps Poole People would like to attend a game at the Tatnam and have a look at the standard of football on offer and the current ground which needs urgent development to stay in the current level?
Would it be ok if I passed on details of Poole People councillors to Chris Reeves &/ or the supporters committee"
edited to add
So far have not heard from The Society of Poole Men even though I know they have seen my complaint.
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Post by benito on Sept 9, 2016 16:36:00 GMT
I like your style Dorset blue it is Direct to the point. Sometimes this actually works instead of the usual standard reply we have heard for years 'loads going on behind the scenes' it has got to the stage if we upset people so what, but direct action might just hit a nerve. Well done, also well done expat for keeping the stadium candle burning over the years.
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Post by expat on Sept 9, 2016 16:37:10 GMT
theres life in the Old Town yet!!
thank you Dorset Blue.
btw I truly believe that a well publicised and well funded Back to the Stadium campaign would register well with the Poole Public.Can u imagine red & white signs from Upton to Lilliput, Canford Magna to Canford Cliffs; Turlin moor to Trinidad. AFC Wimbledon did it and we can too!!
UP THE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!!
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 9, 2016 17:27:25 GMT
theres life in the Old Town yet!! thank you Dorset Blue. btw I truly believe that a well publicised and well funded Back to the Stadium campaign would register well with the Poole Public.Can u imagine red & white signs from Upton to Lilliput, Canford Magna to Canford Cliffs; Turlin moor to Trinidad. AFC Wimbledon did it and we can too!! UP THE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!! Next year when I re-launch Pootle Around Poole Tours I will promote the return of the football club back to the stadium. I know for a fact that the stadium was built by local people during the depression for the purpose of football first and foremost and its this reason why The Society of Poole Men's objection to Poole Town's planning application at the Tatnam has annoyed me. When Poole Stadium was built a certain HP Smith was promoting Poole Historically and I know he would support the return of Poole Town to the Stadium and would support Poole Town at its current home at the Tatnam and would insist that Poole Town stays in the town of Poole.
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 9, 2016 17:30:46 GMT
This is what Poole People party have recently sent me following the conversation earlier today
"It was Chris Reeves who told me that the planned new stadium complex has insufficient capacity for their ambitions. I have said to him that I would be keen to support the club's return if it develops a reasonable proposal but he hasn't got back to me yet "
I have responded that I believe he means the Tatnam and not Poole Stadium.
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Post by expat on Sept 9, 2016 18:13:47 GMT
Dorset Blue I'm coming on one of those tours next time over. When I first went to the Stadium there was a small wooden stand on the railway side.logo "Borough of Poole Sports Arena" I stood on the Wimborne Rd side up against the speedway fence which was made from WW2 Anderson Shelters. Remember our first floodlight games when we played the likes of Pegasus and Football League Teams. Somewhere in the archives are photos of us playing Columbia Wien from Austria. I was there. I believe that we were one of the first non league teams to have floodlights. They were mounted on huge wooden poles. Despite what some say it was a great place to watch football,when the dogs moved in and we had to have temporary corner sections that did indeed detract from the experience. ....but we are going back to an even better Stadium(just think the greyhound tote board could be a Sony Magnetron!!) A successful PTFC at The Stadium; I cannot imagine Poole People and the Society of Poole Men not liking the boost it will give to the Old Town..and just reading here how easy it was for our supporters to travel up by train to London..and we have a location half a mile from Poole station for out of town supporters..no wonder that Premier League team is casting glances our way. Poole needs to keep its Stadium!!
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Post by dorsetblue on Sept 9, 2016 18:43:22 GMT
I've asked the Poole People Party to come and meet our Supporters club for a Q&A session. It's easy to say the council don't care about us but lets give a part of the council the chance to meet us so we can express our concerns and they can give their opinion on us.
It would be a good platform to showcase our ambition and our chance to progress within the community
here's what I've asked
"I would like to make a proposal that The Poole People Party meet our Supporters club so that we could air our concerns and show support for the long term future of the football club. I personally think it would be a good platform for both parties. Poole fans think the council don't care yet here we have a local political party that could answer our questions and at the same time answer any questions you as a party have of us.. Would you be willing to do this on a matchday or non-matchday? "
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