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Post by dolphinnewboy on Sept 7, 2013 14:35:16 GMT
Result from this morning Bristol Academy 0 Poole Town u18's 5, Goals from Josh Buck,Brad Goddard,Matt Swindlehurst,Billy Lowes and Morgan Turner gives the boys a tremendous start to the season,three nil up after the first thirty minutes,the opposition were destroyed by Poole's high tempo game two further strikes in the second half made sure of the points with the boys pressing the opposition til the final whistle,an all round team performance,well done boys.
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Post by expat on Sept 7, 2013 14:39:29 GMT
Great to see..however, what comes next?? its my opinion that we need a reserve team for our young talent to step up to.
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Post by nspetch on Sept 7, 2013 21:04:15 GMT
Just had a coffee with Dan who is absolutely buzzing about our young Academy players today vs Bristol Academy. These young men will be the future of Poole Town and as such are our reserve team. Of course we have a great link with New Milton also. It was the first game for these lads today and they will be at home against Cirencester next Saturday. Venue to be confirmed, but if you can get to watch them as they are all potential 1st team candidates. Over the next few months Dan will ensure they join the 1st team to get accustomed to the environment and for our supporters to start to meet them. Well done Dan and thanks to Shane Turner for his help. Any sponsorship to support this team is welcome.
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Post by chrisreeves on Sept 7, 2013 23:57:10 GMT
We are so fortunate to have someone like Dan involved with our club.This is the way forward.The reserve leagues that are available just don 't provide a good enough standard to make the gap between reserves and first team bridgeable
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Post by PippaD on Sept 8, 2013 8:55:28 GMT
Great result. Don't forget to keep letting us know where and when they're playing. Which league are they in?
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Post by expat on Sept 8, 2013 13:29:55 GMT
We are so fortunate to have someone like Dan involved with our club.This is the way forward.The reserve leagues that are available just don 't provide a good enough standard to make the gap between reserves and first team bridgeable ...if we are building from "the bottom up" isn't it a good idea to have young talent imbued with that PTFC spirit, the stuff that somehow got us a point yesterday?? As some of your ex-military types may tell you there's nothing like team spirit with the the metaphoric PTFC tattooed across the posterior. Putting together two threads here i would much rather that these talented youngster turn out in PTFC colours than those of New Milton and why is the DPL unsuited to our goals when it seems to serve those of Weymouth, Bridport etc quite well?? Great exposure for Dorset's NL team of the future in our home county. UP THE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!! |
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Post by grandad on Sept 8, 2013 15:44:40 GMT
Totally agree. I've spoken to numerous fellow supporters of both Poole Town and our opponents. No-one as yet has been able to explain to me how, when you have promising youngsters coming through the ranks, it benefits the club, other than possibly short term financial savings, to disband the reserves, thereby forcing our young talent to seek a game elsewhere. Not knocking Manny and co but youngsters want and need to play competetive football on a regular basis to progress and develop. At the moment they will not get this with Poole Town. The decision to disband the reserves, in my opinion, was not one thought through with the future in mind. Yes we may have ties with the clubs they have gone to etc., but they are not our players, and as time goes on they will lose their affinity to our club. I fear this decision will come back to haunt us, as other teams, perhaps with a keener eye to the future, will cherry pick what could and should have been our next generation of talent.
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Post by nspetch on Sept 8, 2013 16:45:33 GMT
Grandad, happy to explain everything to you and any others at next game on Saturday. To understand it I must explain the local leagues and their links with the step system. The aim must always be to ensure young talent can progress into the 1st team. As the 1st team has achieved so much so quickly it has been extremely difficult to do this since Will Spetch & Marvin Brooks, who of course broke through from the Youth and joined Poole in the Wessex League at Step 5. Manny was in our reserves almost 3 years ago, the LeAF programme has enabled him to make the step up. The DPL is a step 7 league and is full of older journey men that sadly is a kicking league. It is not a league in which neither I or the board believe the best young talent in this area needs to be exposed too. The Wessex League however is. For this season we have put in place something that links our U18's & LeAF Academy programme, to the Wyvern League (playing reserve teams such as Eastleigh, Salisbury etc) & to a Wessex team that provides Step 6&5 experience that will truly enable the likes of Sam Carter, Sam Davidson, Sam Bayston and others to flourish and can then be real assets to Poole Town FC at Step 3. We currently have the best and I mean the best U18's team in this area. These lads have all had opportunities at higher level clubs and will all be encouraged to grow over the next 2 years to reach the Step 3 level that is needed. The situation regarding a Poole Town Reserve Team of course will be reviewed again for the start of next season.
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Post by grandad on Sept 8, 2013 17:56:42 GMT
Thanks for that Nick. I for one am happy to admit to not being au fais with all the niceties etc of "Step Levels" etc. I am on the outside looking in and I totally agree the aim must be to ensure young talent can progress into the 1st team; but must this be at the expense of being divorced from their parent club? Manny is definitely a player for the future but is he really able to get enough competitive minutes to enhance his performance, as and when he is a substitute for the first team? At the moment that it is all that seems likely, albeit, he seemed pretty sound on Saturday. As for DPL I think you do this a discredit by calling it a kicking league. Even at our current level,there will always be those who use physical presence over skill. For example, I am sure Exeter did not loan us Jacob to improve his skill level, but to enhance his ability to survive in the school of hard knocks. What guarantee is there, that those you mention, should they flourish in the Wessex League with another club, will remain committed and an asset of Poole Town? I am not privvy to the inner sanctum, so would be happy to receive any cast iron reassurance you can give.
I, and I am sure a lot of other Poole Town suporters, would just feel more at ease and reassured, if the facility existed for our promising U18's, to continue their development in the red & white of Poole Town rather than in the guise of some other local team
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Post by chrisreeves on Sept 8, 2013 19:33:05 GMT
Don't underestimate the work that Nick Spetch and Dan Herrington do to keep our youngsters -including in that definition so many at New Milton(dual registered with us by the way)-involved with the Poole Town ethos and the prospect of progression to the Senior side.
The Board have devoted much time thought and expense to the current structure.We did not make these decisions glibly..If supporters can identify concerns and issues,then rest assured the Board who are all fanatical supporters as well,will also see those same issues.We are the ones who have to be accountable,we have to find the money,we have to carry the responsibility for the decisions we take.
What we have in place now gives us the best possible structure for continuity and progression for our youngsters I believe.
No one could be more motivated in this respect than Nick and Dan.Our youngsters are our future.
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Post by dubchek on Sept 8, 2013 19:35:38 GMT
Have to agree with Grandads comments,i do not agree with our young talent being dispersed to other clubs, not having a reserve team in Poole colours.
The DPL is good enough for Weymouth's reserves.We entered the Wyvern League as the preferred option.
Wessex League division 1 is at Step 6,we play at Step 3,the quality at step six is superior to the DPL there should be enough distance between the leagues to play a reserve team at step 6 to get a good grounding and not to far a step to the senior side.
Of course finance would be an issue but trust in our BOD who are Poole Town through and through.
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Post by RobTheShirt on Sept 8, 2013 20:18:01 GMT
In an ideal world, I'm sure that the club would field teams under the Poole Town colours at all levels but realistically this isn't going to happen.
Having helped run the gate for the Ressies over the past two seasons I know only too well how much it cost the club but also how soul destroying it must have been for the players to play week in and week out in front of a handful of watchers. (I won't even say supporters as it was almost always deathly quiet with little encouragement). They will get far better experience by playing regularly in daylight in front of a moderate crowd.
We want the 1st team to achieve as much as possible and to do this on a very limited budget, all available resources must be set aside for that.
Times have changed from the days of 11 men and no subs where it was possible to run 2 teams with a fairly modest number of players. Nowadays the squad system means that some players will spend a substantial amount of time on the bench but at a guess, they are also getting regular playing time elsewhere.
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Post by grandad on Sept 8, 2013 20:32:56 GMT
Chris, I and supporters I speak to, do have reservations about a few, and I mean very few, things concerning Poole Town Football Club, but none of these involve any doubt, that you or the rest of the BoD have the best of intentions for the club. Despite this, as an outsider but ardent supporter of the club, I can only comment upon the facts as they are presented to me. Based on what I see, I still believe that not having a reserve team is a folly. You are in a better position to judge than I, so I can only hope and trust that I am wrong and that the club can continue to keep happy, those youngsters no longer playing in the red and white. Similarly I hope those first team squad members, who are not playing on a regular basis, continue to be happy, not getting ang game time, whilst sat on the first team bench.
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Post by dorsetyellow on Sept 8, 2013 21:27:17 GMT
I believe Wessex League Rules do not allow Reserve teams. Even if we wanted to we could not enter a PTFC Reserves team at step 6 or higher.
How many players do you know that have made the jump from DPL to SPL? When were were a Wessex outfit this may have been of interest, but DPL only allow a certain quota of Ressie teams and they were already full. We are no longer a Wessex outfit. No looking back.
The decision to drop the Reserves this season was far from financial.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Sept 9, 2013 9:33:22 GMT
I have always supported having a reserve team clearly identified as Poole Town Reserves.
However, I have read this thread very carefully and I am now prepared to go along with the BOD and the management and endorse the present set-up. Let's see how many more like Will and Marv we get coming through and how soon.
Also, as someone said, it is subject to review.
P.S. I wondered why New Milton were doing so well this season!
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