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Post by Jack Tanner on Oct 28, 2021 16:45:28 GMT
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Oct 28, 2021 21:27:54 GMT
Does the last article mean TK is going to abandon (if only for a while) only one up front? Tony Lee & Will Fletcher from the start. Great if true. Attack is some times the best form of defence! At least if the play is in the opponents half,they can't score. Hope it is for the full 90 minutes, especially if winning by 1 goal. Suddenly we go all defensive & seam to invite pressure. Run the ball to the corner flags, yes, as it is not in our half & so they can't score. IN TOM I TRUST & COYD 🐬
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Post by Jack Tanner on Oct 28, 2021 22:20:19 GMT
Does the last article mean TK is going to abandon (if only for a while) only one up front? Tony Lee & Will Fletcher from the start. Great if true. Attack is some times the best form of defence! At least if the play is in the opponents half,they can't score. Hope it is for the full 90 minutes, especially if winning by 1 goal. Suddenly we go all defensive & seam to invite pressure. Run the ball to the corner flags, yes, as it is not in our half & so they can't score. IN TOM I TRUST & COYD 🐬 Two up front was not the impression I got from Tom at all. As the article states Tom was more talking about the midfield generating chances, or in this case failing to do so. Nothing really changed in the past two games when Will Fletcher came up on top alongside Tony as there was nothing being created from the midfield. The only time I can recall it working was against Swindon, and even then it didn’t really create many more opportunities- just left another Swindon defender occupied. The goal certainly didn’t come from two up top, but rather a good run and pass from Jez Bedford, a chance the side hasn’t really been generating since Merthyr. I can imagine we’ll see more of three at the back with Fletcher coming off the bench and potentially playing two up top, but I’d be surprised to see it as a starting tactic.
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Post by Jack Tanner on Oct 29, 2021 19:14:58 GMT
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Post by Jack Tanner on Nov 12, 2021 17:24:28 GMT
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Post by bearwoodbob on Nov 12, 2021 21:50:48 GMT
Who appointed this Jack Tanner as the mouthpiece of the club, Does he pay Tom Killick for his Interviews ? why else would our great club allow such reporting bilge be pedalled about every match. Come on Chris Reeves '' let's be having you '' counter these savage articles that are being written about our great Manager and Team.
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Post by scorpio on Nov 12, 2021 22:02:56 GMT
I think that's a bit rude Bearwood Bob. Jack Tanner is only saying it as he sees it, and let's face it what we have witnessed recently has been poor. Tom Killick said as much himself.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Nov 13, 2021 11:27:12 GMT
No he doesn't pay TK for his interviews. Also don't think Jack gets paid anything either. Not by the Echo for any article that appears in it. Don't know if the NLP pay him for any of the match reports in there. Think it is great that someone is trying to raise the profile of the club. I don't agree with everything he writes. But most of it is spot on the money. Wether I agree or not, the views & reports of matches comes from someone who wants the club to succeed. The match reports are factual accounts of the game that has taken place. His opinion pieces are labeled just that. So while containing facts are his view, including any emotions that go with them. Interviews are the opinions of those being spoken to. Let's hope Jack doesn't land a sports journalist job, that actually pays. Either on a local paper elsewhere or one of the nationals, as we will lose someone who is trying to help the club. Like all the others who volunteer for us.
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Post by bearwoodbob on Nov 13, 2021 11:51:54 GMT
Thank you Choirboy Dave for your well reasoned defence of the JT articles. It just seems to me that to many of the pieces contain negative vibes about T K & the team. We are going through a difficult patch at the moment and all this insight of the teams diffentcious being reported everywhere can't help the squads morale.
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Post by Jack Tanner on Nov 13, 2021 14:50:49 GMT
It was only, what, two months ago when someone on here was having a go at me for defending Tommy too much and accusing me of refusing to ask hard questions, questioning my work ethic and competence as a journalist.
I kind of feel if I'm being accused of both being too cynical and going too easy on management/ the side, then I must be somewhere closer to the middle.
I've been doing this for roughly six or seven years now, as others have pointed out, for free. Unfortunately, the way print papers are at the moment, if I don't write and submit anything to the Echo, they are very unlikely to report on anything at Poole Town.
I don't think my approach has rapidly changed over those years, even considering that I was a teenager when I started and am now a fully qualified journalist.
The only thing I can really say is that the title doesn't always convey the entirety of the piece, and that in this case, I prompted the word 'insipid' - which Tommy agreed with, as he is directly quoted as saying.
Tommy has never had an issue with the contents of articles, probably because he doesn't read all of them, but also because he knows he's being directly quoted. At no point has that been an issue in the six years I've interviewed him.
For the most part of covering Poole, there has been very few negative moments, or poor runs of form.
Over the years I have probably overstepped the mark as a 'journalist' on this forum, in terms of defending personal opinions or even viewpoints over Tommy. I don't really know how to respond to being accused of writing 'savage' articles.
There's some utter nonsense and unhinged views about the BoD and club as a whole being written on the forum at the moment that in the past I'd probably respond to. It's getting to the point now where I will be updating the forum for Match Live Threads, which is perhaps an outdated tradition, and for posting links to articles.
Even writing responses to "defend my honour" is getting tiring now and sadly too frequent. Maybe I should have drawn that line a while ago, but I'm still relatively young and always learning.
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Post by happyhammer on Nov 13, 2021 19:20:53 GMT
Regards the situ with comments that have been said about the BoD and the Big Announcement that the Very loyal supporters had been promised over 18 months ago ,I personally believe the supporters and forum members have been very respectful,I have been a loyal regular supporter of the club since I moved down from Wokingham , Berkshire in 2007 and have been a forum member since 2013,please respect that this fan base is very important to the club and it's brought out of frustration on hearing very little of what is going on behind the scenes,so more than ever i say again to the powers that be all we are asking for is a little info,into what actually is happening!!!.
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Post by expat on Nov 13, 2021 19:40:06 GMT
All we are saying is give info a chance
Apologies To JL and YO
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Post by Jack Tanner on Nov 16, 2021 16:02:11 GMT
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Post by Jack Tanner on Dec 15, 2021 12:02:44 GMT
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Post by expat on Dec 15, 2021 13:58:53 GMT
When your manager is losing faith?? ..but the bound and gagged fans at Tatnam will endure!!
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Dec 15, 2021 14:28:04 GMT
At least BCP have voted to reopen Tatnam Road. However don't think that is the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! Just a little one to tease us all!
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Post by scorpio on Dec 16, 2021 9:37:37 GMT
Re-opening Tatnam road will certainly give easier access to traffic. IE : Construction vehicles.
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Post by Jack Tanner on Dec 21, 2021 17:17:12 GMT
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Post by tbtv on Dec 21, 2021 19:29:27 GMT
Excellent, cheers Jack. I was getting bored of all those endless Cherries articles.
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Post by georgefullerton on Dec 21, 2021 22:28:42 GMT
Jack you’re doing a fantastic job already at the Echo - it’s great to see so many articles about PTFC, including interviews with players. Absolutely loving it. Thank you for everything you do for the club 🐬
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Post by Steve47 on Jan 3, 2022 15:34:25 GMT
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Post by Jack Tanner on Jan 4, 2022 11:57:16 GMT
It's pertinent to Poole (and Wimborne, based on his further comments about their match being called off) and not everyone who reads the Echo website will check this forum or watch videos on Salisbury's Facebook page. On top of this at some point our news desk will start to cover the sport section of the Salisbury Journal, so they will also become a part of my patch. It's also an ongoing dialogue between two managers that people are clearly interested in. If I'm being completely honest and frank, I've been brought into the Echo to cover Saints and Cherries digitally - the main focus is getting online views on articles about those two clubs. Observations and opinions on the state of modern local journalism aside, I really shouldn't be investing as much time as I am into non-league coverage. It's not directly my focus, but I am passionate about it and extremely aware there are many people who share that passion. Articles like this generate far more views than most non-league reports. My theory is that if I can prove that non-league articles can generate sufficient views then I can attribute more time and effort into it in the future. I can see where you're coming from and agree to some extent it isn't the most newsworthy of articles, but these are the circumstances I'm working under. To make an analogy of it, this is a tap-in of a story whereas usually I'd like to score 40-yard screamers. Currently the paper lacks a reputation for coverage of local football, and I am doing my best to try and return it to previous levels. The sad fact is that non-league football, for the most part, doesn't generate many views, and with news desks reducing in size it is simply a fruitless endeavour. That won't stop me attempting to improve the scenario. The above article is somewhat of a necessary evil. If I can grow a stronger base of readers for non-league articles, I can go on and produce more.
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Post by rob bayston on Jan 4, 2022 18:01:13 GMT
Jack it’s simple if people don’t like/ or want to read certain articles just ignore them as I do on here for certain posts, for me what your trying to do is ok by me, good luck to you. Not everyone ( incl me) agree with your articles all the time but the profile of the club is raised by your efforts thank you!
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Post by Jack Tanner on Jan 5, 2022 15:32:09 GMT
Jack it’s simple if people don’t like/ or want to read certain articles just ignore them as I do on here for certain posts, for me what your trying to do is ok by me, good luck to you. Not everyone ( incl me) agree with your articles all the time but the profile of the club is raised by your efforts thank you! Absolutely Rob - I'm not too egotistical to presume everyone loves everything I write, but I just felt in this case it was best to explain why articles like this crop up and explain fully what I'm doing. I didn't take Steve's comment as a personal jab, as I could understand why people don't think it is a newsworthy article.
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Post by Steve47 on Jan 5, 2022 18:37:54 GMT
Jack it’s simple if people don’t like/ or want to read certain articles just ignore them as I do on here for certain posts, for me what your trying to do is ok by me, good luck to you. Not everyone ( incl me) agree with your articles all the time but the profile of the club is raised by your efforts thank you! Absolutely Rob - I'm not too egotistical to presume everyone loves everything I write, but I just felt in this case it was best to explain why articles like this crop up and explain fully what I'm doing. I didn't take Steve's comment as a personal jab, as I could understand why people don't think it is a newsworthy article. Jack, don't get me wrong I'm a fan of your material as the next man, but just felt that the Claridge interview in which he 'belittled' our Tom was best left alone...Anyway you did as normal cover it very well with your article...
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Post by RobTheShirt on Jan 5, 2022 20:14:52 GMT
Steve. I think Claridge belittled himself, not Tommy. Only a diehard Salisbury fan would believe that rubbish. Jack quite rightly stated that the Tom Blair evidence came from numerous sources.
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Post by Jack Tanner on Jan 6, 2022 11:28:46 GMT
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Post by southwalessteve1 on Jan 6, 2022 12:34:55 GMT
Thanks Jack. Your reports make great reading - and for us our exiles it is good to keep the profile of the club up
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Post by Jack Tanner on Jan 8, 2022 10:56:19 GMT
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Post by Jack Tanner on Jan 12, 2022 14:37:13 GMT
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