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Post by WelshDolphin on Jan 18, 2021 13:42:16 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55677125A piece from the BBC website with quotes from plenty of clubs across the 'non-elite' leagues including our own Chris Reeves. "The Isthmian League board, along with the Northern League and Southern League equivalents at the top levels of the non-elite game, think this season should be declared null and void - but member clubs will get their say.
Isthmian League chairman Nick Robinson says the board are "really concerned about overplaying players" and "very concerned" about the prospect of players spreading the virus through football.
"The view of the boards was 'let's work towards the second Saturday in August, let's work towards having a really good 2021-22 season'. We put two bad seasons behind us and we really work positively towards that.""
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 18, 2021 15:17:52 GMT
So what happens next season if there is another shutdown? Null & void was right for last season. But this season for steps 3 & below it isn't. Restart mid March/ start of April. Then finish end June/mid July. No play offs. Start 21-22 end August beginning of September, with proper contingency plans if another shut down is needed. The lack of ambition of some if not most of the clubs in these 3 leagues is staggering. Meanwhile ambitious clubs, such ourselves in Step 3 are left to rot for another season.
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Post by happyhammer on Jan 18, 2021 15:42:43 GMT
I think there are also a lot of clubs whom would like some kind of alternative completion to decide this season my personal view is that the Trident step 3 Leagues had plenty of opportunity after the last null and void to restructure this season as this could go on /off for a number of years yet we have heard about mini divisions within leagues etc...so cutting down on travelling distances and spreading the virus etc ...I notice in the Non league newspaper (a great read on Sundays)that some clubs are hoping to play local completions against other clubs if the season is closed down and of course when deemed to be safe etc...maybe we should look into putting on a small tournament to include some of our local sides Wimborne,Dorchester Salisbury Hamworthy just to name a few under FA.guidance of course.But one thing I do hope is that the step 3 Leagues seriously spend between now and the beginning of next season really putting together a new league/Division restructuring system in place because despite vaccine etc...this is going to roll on for a few seasons to come.COYD.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 22, 2021 14:02:38 GMT
National League North & South have both been halted for 2 weeks. Today is also the deadline for consultation for clubs Step 3 & below, as how if possible to complete the season or to void again. Interesting to know how Poole answered.
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Post by expat on Jan 22, 2021 15:42:58 GMT
I hope all non league fans will be cheering for Chorley today. i refuse to pay for DAZN but its being carried live on another sports channel here.
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Post by expat on Jan 22, 2021 21:40:54 GMT
what a performance by Chorley. They can hold their heads high!! Their fitness level was a credit to NL football The FA Cup. Still one of the greatest competitions in the football world when an NL team can reach the fourth round and give a Premier league team a close game. ...now about our New SXXXXXM!!
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Jan 24, 2021 12:05:12 GMT
Nice post expat! You can't resist adding a a little mischievous comment can you? With the demise of Chorley (just a small town not far from here) I'm now reduced to following Saints and Boscombe in the FA Cup. Not that it matters much. As for the SPLS at least we can say that we finished top of the league this season!
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 28, 2021 15:22:32 GMT
A tweet from Tony Incenzo...
My suggestion on how to finish the Non-League season
# Wait until all main vulnerable groups have been vaccinated & lockdown is lifted in March
# Re-start the season & play through April/May/June/July
# Have the close season in August
# Start 2021/22 season in mid-September
Let's hope the Trident Leagues take it up. With the delayed Euro 2020 & Olympics on as well as hopefully better weather, if we are more or less back to normal, could be a good opportunity for all clubs at our level to get some much needed income, through the gates & at the bar. Of course if the vaccine programme gets delayed....? 😥
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Post by PippaD on Jan 28, 2021 17:09:55 GMT
A tweet from Tony Incenzo... My suggestion on how to finish the Non-League season # Wait until all main vulnerable groups have been vaccinated & lockdown is lifted in March # Re-start the season & play through April/May/June/July # Have the close season in August # Start 2021/22 season in mid-September Let's hope the Trident Leagues take it up. With the delayed Euro 2020 & Olympics on as well as hopefully better weather, if we are more or less back to normal, could be a good opportunity for all clubs at our level to get some much needed income, through the gates & at the bar. Of course if the vaccine programme gets delayed....? 😥 If only it were that simple Dave 😔
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Post by andyparker1 on Jan 29, 2021 1:48:37 GMT
I can't see the point of keeping voiding seasons. We might as well re-start when allowed to and play on until a full season is finished.
It might be sensible to have a 2020-2022 season and just keep going until the season hopefully finishes in 2022.
I can't see much football being played until May/June or perhaps even later for a re-start, but maybe after that we could just keep going until May 2022. If all went really well, then I'm sure additional cup competitions and friendlies could be organised, but it is actually more likely that there will be Covid postponements and delays and that to complete 1 season by May 2022 is quite realistic. The worst decision would be to void this season - what happens if 15 or 20 matches are played next season - do we do the same again and void three seasons in a row.
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Post by WelshDolphin on Jan 29, 2021 11:33:05 GMT
It might be sensible to have a 2020-2022 season and just keep going until the season hopefully finishes in 2022. Having now resigned myself to this season not ending any time soon this is the most sensible idea. Most teams in our division have played 7 games to now. 'Pause' this season and start again in August with 7 less games to play for everyone. When the inevitable weather (and possibly still Covid) postponements come again there will be more free weekday evenings to get those games in without overplaying the players.
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Post by andyparker1 on Jan 29, 2021 12:27:18 GMT
It would work to postpone the partially played season and re-start in August with us having played 7 matches if the season really doesn't start again by April or so, but like others, I can see the sense of getting some summer football in, if the numbers of Covid cases drop a lot and continuing with some fixtures in the season. Hopefully crowds are allowed back at some point, but I don't just see it all being simple; I'm sure there will be a new wave of Covid at some point, more postponements and lockdowns, which is why I wouldn't void the season, but would simply continue with it until it is completed.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 29, 2021 12:51:45 GMT
It might be sensible to have a 2020-2022 season and just keep going until the season hopefully finishes in 2022. Having now resigned myself to this season not ending any time soon this is the most sensible idea. Most teams in our division have played 7 games to now. 'Pause' this season and start again in August with 7 less games to play for everyone. When the inevitable weather (and possibly still Covid) postponements come again there will be more free weekday evenings to get those games in without overplaying the players. Also we could include Merthyr (hopefully lockdown will have ended in Wales too.) in it & have all the teams who should have been competing last season in our league.
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Post by happyhammer on Jan 29, 2021 19:37:34 GMT
I'm not optermistic about this season I think most if not all clubs would prefer to void this season as it stands as playing well into the summer to try and finish the season would be a total no go as the F.A.would veto this idea as they give dates for when season starts and ends!! I've mentioned so many times that the league's should now concentrate on restructuring the whole of the non league pyramid from at least step 3 down because despite the various vaccines going round we shall be stuck with the virus on and off for some years to come.My ideas smaller sub divisions lose county/league cups for a number of seasons sub divisions would cut down on travelling so cutting back on costs also no midweek games saving on electricity bills/costs but having bigger crowds (social distancing of course)could go on and on but I'm sure you get the jist I think this would save grass roots football for the time being.Just a thought about the vaccines I work in the care industry running a very large catering department and despite all employees having the first jab on 31st December we currently have nearly a third recovering from covid having court the virus very recently .Point being this shall prob roll on and off for sometime to come!!!.COYD
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Post by WelshDolphin on Feb 9, 2021 13:08:25 GMT
FAO Pippa or Chris (or anyone else on the BoD).
Is there a timeline for the results of the survey? Any indication as to when we might know one way or another? Thanks.
I see in the National League their vote seems to be happening quite publicly as clubs announce which way they are going with keeping going or stopping. Quite a North/South split with wanting to keep going at Step 2.
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Post by graygraeme on Feb 9, 2021 18:54:32 GMT
Personally I think they should’ve completed last season when they could’ve done, that way if this season gets null and void we’d have only lost one season rather than two, it’s the same with Darts leagues and pool leagues complete the season before starting a new one
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Post by chrisreeves on Feb 9, 2021 19:01:55 GMT
The Alliance committee has met and had a lengthy debate analysing the survey results.
No decision will be made until the further announcement from Boris promised for 22nd.
By then hopefully the National League will have the result of their own survey of Clubs.
By then theLeagues committee of the FA that deals with steps 5&6 will have had their meeting.
Next meeting of the Alliance is set for 23rd.
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Post by WelshDolphin on Feb 10, 2021 0:25:44 GMT
Thanks Chris.
Will wait for word from our glorious leader, I'm sure it will be as clear, concise and on time as all of his previous advice!
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Feb 10, 2021 12:50:59 GMT
WelshDolphin, I love your mordancy!
Chris, that'll be February 23rd, I presume!
We'll still be able to say that we finished top of the league in 2021.
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Post by happyhammer on Feb 22, 2021 8:38:07 GMT
Possible grass roots footie Start march 29th??....
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Post by WelshDolphin on Feb 22, 2021 14:43:25 GMT
Can we get 31 games in over 2 months!!??
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Post by happyhammer on Feb 22, 2021 15:24:27 GMT
Absolutely!!!.As the format is now no way but just maybe one another proposal could be splitting each division into regions ...but realistically I guess the league season looks non/void ...my personal view would be too get some of our local clubs together and play a mini league tournament this would get monies into each club,get players playing and clubs operating again and of course getting football starved fans through the gates with very limited travelling friendly games with a difference👍
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Post by parky64 on Feb 23, 2021 19:03:09 GMT
Any news yet?
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Post by happyhammer on Feb 23, 2021 19:19:40 GMT
I guess in light of steps 2 National south/National north being non/void there will not be any promotion/relegation between the steps so one would imagine regardless our season looks like it might be all over.A number of Natnorth/May South clubs might be mounting legal actions against there league as these clubs wanted to play on I guess this could get really messy!!!
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Post by parky64 on Feb 24, 2021 18:09:34 GMT
I see the FA are making a statement about step 3 at 630 tonight.
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Post by PippaD on Feb 24, 2021 18:29:07 GMT
I see the FA are making a statement about step 3 at 630 tonight. The update will be on our main website at 6:30 ( or maybe 6:31!) At the same time as Ollie Bayliss no doubt 😉
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Post by happyhammer on Feb 24, 2021 19:23:23 GMT
I think we all thought that the season would be suspended and Non/void .Maybe just maybe the officials of all steps from 3 down might now spend plenty of time seriously looking at how the National pyramid system can be restructed ,becouse as we now know this virus won't be going away and we shall be living with this for sometime!!! It maybe my humble opinion but we cannot carry on with the prospect of the pyramid system gradually falling apart season after season,there are too many clubs that put so much in to the communities up and down the country,yes maybe we should shut up shop like the F.A. did in the second world war but my take on that is we have moved on from then and with local infrastructure in place surely a new new system can be put in place at more local level,if not then it will be years of uncertainty within our national game!!!
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Post by WelshDolphin on Feb 25, 2021 11:39:28 GMT
So the season is definitely over once again www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56186734 Interesting that the words 'null and void' are nowhere to be seen. Might suggest that they are thinking of keeping the results on record in case they need to be coupled with some from next season if there are any more losses of fixtures would benefit us.
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Post by andyparker1 on Feb 26, 2021 1:29:07 GMT
So the season is definitely over once again www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56186734 Interesting that the words 'null and void' are nowhere to be seen. Might suggest that they are thinking of keeping the results on record in case they need to be coupled with some from next season if there are any more losses of fixtures would benefit us. I thought the same - nowhere does it say that the results from this season have been cancelled. There is some sort of ratification committee coming up, where I suppose they will formally void the results and the season, but I still don't see why they can't carry the results into next season. I will be very surprised if we get a full season in for 2021-22, and I really don't see why the few games we have played, can't be carried over. I don't agree with some kind of league restructuring, done on any basis other than results, but there must be a huge amount of clubs who are worried about their financial future, after losing the best part of 2 seasons and we really need to complete the next one. It will be interesting to see if they expunge the results or carry them over - no doubt they won't have the common sense to carry it over and make it easier for next year.
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Post by happyhammer on Feb 27, 2021 10:13:25 GMT
With respect I think restructuring could be the only way out of this as you mentioned AndyParker we will possibly have another stop/start season 2021/22 ,at least with less games less travel ,could work?. I notice the F.A.are looking at a possible restructuring from level 4 downwards,in the coming season or so.There is a lot to weigh up I guess!!.
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