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Post by WelshDolphin on Jan 24, 2020 10:42:19 GMT
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Post by happyhammer on Jan 24, 2020 13:25:30 GMT
Appreciate a sort of update and respect the agreement in hand. Any ideas where it might likely to be??
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 24, 2020 14:06:19 GMT
Appreciate a sort of update and respect the agreement in hand. Any ideas where it might likely to be?? Where ever it is, hopefully better draining than Tatnam. Preferably on land above sea level, unlike our present home.
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Post by peterlep on Jan 24, 2020 20:30:54 GMT
Brownsea Island!
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Post by peterlep on Jan 24, 2020 20:34:31 GMT
But seriously - this does sound promising - although after so many false dawns we will just have to wait and see.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 24, 2020 21:02:13 GMT
But seriously - this does sound promising - although after so many false dawns we will just have to wait and see. Think it is really true this time. Once the full details are made public, the real campaign begins. Where ever the BOD & the council want to make our new home, there will be nimdys. The club has proved time & again it is more than capable on the pitch. Hopefully shortly we will have the resources off it, that no ground grader, no matter how picky, can question. Then we can move up to the pyramid & fulfill our true potential. COYD 🐬
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Post by scorpio on Jan 24, 2020 21:31:52 GMT
Perhaps they will allow us to play on one of those 10 pitches mapped out for the AFC Bournemouth youth teams at Canford Magna.
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Post by BD on Jan 25, 2020 0:18:42 GMT
Perhaps they will allow us to play on one of those 10 pitches mapped out for the AFC Bournemouth youth teams at Canford Magna. I hope not! I absolutely hope that's not the case. If we are using facilities that are not our own, then we will effectively be homeless. If we are using AFCB training facilities, I will never set foot inside. I truly hope we will have a place that we can call our own.
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Post by happyhammer on Jan 25, 2020 1:23:28 GMT
Can't see it being anything to do with Bournemouth as there training facilities are just that. As we all know a capacity of 3500/4000 I guess to include all out building s etc... maybe down the road with a upgraded Dorset F. A. headquarters who knows.
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Post by melvyn on Jan 25, 2020 11:47:21 GMT
It would be fabulous to have this issue sorted once and for all. But I hope that it isn't Canford Magna. It's a bloody long walk from Upper Parkstone for a non-driver!
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Post by towncrier on Jan 25, 2020 22:38:15 GMT
I really hope this leads to a ground you can call your own and all be proud of. You deserve to do well.
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Post by Stato on Jan 26, 2020 14:08:40 GMT
Perhaps they will allow us to play on one of those 10 pitches mapped out for the AFC Bournemouth youth teams at Canford Magna. Highly unlikely as it is an ‘open field’ complex with no facilities to stage pay on entry football. Also a) the landowner unlikely to allow development or even have planning permission to allow a third party to move in for league football and b) PT are probably not in a financial position to pay for such development judging by the recent ‘Just Giving’ appeal. Only possible would be Afc B vacating the premises for their new training facilities across the road and the land being leased for public use but that would be some time away and also dependant on the Cherries survival in the Prem this season. Relegation may well change their plans of the new training site and stadium upgrade. More likely to share with Hamworthy at the DCFA ground. Being an all weather surface this could work on a week on week off (away games) basis. Either way, the sooner they leave Tatnum the better!
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Post by nigelj on Jan 26, 2020 18:53:02 GMT
Was chatting to my 80year father in-law,who has lived in oacdale all his life,about the move and tatnam constantly flooding in the far corner....he said no wonder....when he was a kid and growing up the lane behind the ground was known as WELL lane as there was a natural well there as the water naturally ran to it...so would probably never cure the flooding.... can't wait for the move and to watch football all year round.
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Post by terrasdolphin on Jan 26, 2020 19:39:23 GMT
How Dorking, who we just beat, did it.
'Real-life Championship Manager': the incredible rise of Dorking Wanderers Marc White started the club in 1999 with mates – 11 promotions later he is managing them in the National League South
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Fri 11 Oct 2019 11.32 BSTLast modified on Fri 11 Oct 2019 16.40 BST Shares 267 Comments 248 Dorking Wanderers founder, chairman and manager Marc White at the club’s Meadowbank stadium. Dorking Wanderers founder, chairman and manager Marc White at the club’s Meadowbank stadium. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian September 1999. Wimbledon are sinking towards Premier League relegation, with rumours of a relocation refusing to go away. One weary Dons supporter, Marc White, decides to do something else with his Saturdays. “I thought: ‘Why not start something with a few friends, have a bit of a laugh?’” With that, Dorking Wanderers are born.
They join the now-defunct Crawley & District League, playing home games at Big Field, a windswept council pitch that costs £50 per game to hire. They have no supporters and no grand designs. “We were 14 lads, all paying a fiver each,” White says. “For Saturday football, there’s no lower level. And that’s how it started.”
Fort William: how the 'worst football team in Britain' kept their club alive Read more Twenty years on, White is sitting in the main stand at Meadowbank, the team’s gleaming stadium. The club he owns and manages are in the National League South, two promotions from the Football League. “We’ve had 11 promotions in 19 years,” a British record, he says. “It’s like real-life Championship Manager.”
The meteoric rise began with a sideways move, into the four-tier West Sussex League in 2000. Within five years, they had reached the top division – and hit their first roadblock. “The first seven games that year, we lost all seven,” says White. “We were stone bottom of the league, and I realised I couldn’t keep playing. We got out of jail that year and won the league the next season. Now, I’ve got four coaches, three physios, a scouting team behind me.”
The modern-day Dorking Wanderers have been built “hand to mouth, brick by brick”, according to White. “As you move through the leagues, you have to keep building infrastructure. It started back at Big Field. We got promoted, so we had to put a rope round the pitch! That becomes a fixed barrier, then paths, floodlights, seats … now we’re in a 3,000-capacity stadium.”
It was Dorking’s second home, at nearby Westhumble, that fostered a surge through the Sussex County League – but also the most challenging stage of the club’s development. “It was literally just a field,” White says. “There was no power, no water, nothing there.”
The main stand at Meadowbank. ‘It’s become a real hub of the community’. FacebookTwitterPinterest The main stand at Meadowbank. ‘It’s become a real hub of the community’. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian Sandwiched between “millionaires’ row” and protected countryside, developing the ground was “a nightmare. Every fence post, every seat, had to be signed off. I went to meetings, and people were angry. One guy said our floodlights were ruining his stargazing. But this is what goes into running a non-league club.”
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Struggling to find a way forward, White turned to some famous names for help. “I’m friends with Calum Best, and we went up to Old Trafford for the PSG game. David Beckham had just got involved with Salford, so we had a chat. He said Gary Neville had a lot of the same problems trying to set up a training ground in Stretford.”
White’s ambitious project has, like Salford’s, attracted envious glances from rivals, but White stresses there are “no sugar daddies” behind the scenes. He says he has used his background in business to build an extensive network of local sponsors who are prepared to invest in the squad.
“The first player we paid money for was Jason Prior from Havant, who cost £15,000. We needed a prolific centre-forward, a finisher – and that was something our partners actually paid for. Was he worth it? Yeah, he’s unbelievable.”
White’s current squad are not a collection of expensive new recruits; midfielder Jerome Beckles has been with the club for 10 years. White says the club’s financial stability is “a virtuous circle. If we’re winning, more people watch us, we become more commercially attractive, we earn more and invest in the playing side.”
In 2016 the club gatecrashed the Isthmian League, but were still hemmed in at Westhumble. Back then, Meadowbank was a very different place. With the town’s original team, Dorking FC, falling into financial disarray, the stadium became run-down, and the local council locked the gates. In the cut-throat world of non-league, the town wasn’t big enough for both teams.
“We were down the road doing well, and Dorking FC gave up the ghost a bit,” he says. “We amalgamated, although really only a couple of their guys joined with us, and then we moved in here.” The relocation was part of Surrey FA’s decision to redevelop Meadowbank as its new headquarters. “We were the beneficiaries of Dorking’s demise,” White admits, “but the gates were locked a long time before we got here.”
Marc White poses in front of the club crest. FacebookTwitterPinterest Marc White poses in front of the club crest. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian In their first season at the redeveloped stadium, Wanderers ran away with the Isthmian Premier League to earn their 11th promotion. Crowds now average more than 1,000 at the modern, town-centre venue that boasts a bar and fan zone.
White’s primary goal is ensuring the club are a stable presence at the heart of the town. “When I drive through Dorking now, I see dads with their kids in the shirts. It’s become a real hub of the community.” Behind him, a soccer school for local kids makes full use of the artificial pitch.
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“There are 1,150 kids enrolled in our youth schemes, starting from four years old,” White says. “My old teammates’ kids are signed up. We’re proud of that. We mustn’t ever sell out, and put success above sustainability. We’ve been offered all sorts of money, partners who say: ‘Just tell us who you want to sign.’ But we don’t want to push our way into League Two and then it all crashes down.”
Dorking look comfortable at their new level, but White insists there is plenty of work to do. “Our aim this season is to stay up, but I’ve been saying that since we started!” As ever, there is plenty of red tape to unravel. “Just to stay in this league, we need to build another stand behind the goal. If we get into the play-offs, we have to get even more seating.”
White also accepts promotion to the National League would mean switching to full-time status. “That would be the biggest game-changer of all,” he says, casting a glance across the ground. “If we do get into the play-offs, we’d have to sit down and work out how we could do it. But that’s been the case so many times.”
The Fiver: sign up and get our daily football email. White’s success has not gone unnoticed by bigger clubs. “I’ve had two or three clubs coming in for me, from as high up as League Two. I’d like to get to that level, but only with Dorking Wanderers.” From a fantasy 20 years ago, that feels like a tangible target. Does White ever have a day off?
“The success isn’t down to me,” he says. “But it’s had a massive impact on my life. It’s taken over. My business would do a lot better if I wasn’t always here. But everyone has their interests, their passions. And this is mine.”
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Post by terrasdolphin on Jan 26, 2020 19:52:42 GMT
The relocation was part of Surrey FA’s decision to redevelop Meadowbank as its new headquarters. Read more: pooletown.co.uk/thread/10106/leaving-tatnam#ixzz6CATBU9D5And that was my main point. Surely to God, despite any age old dread of being on the wrong side of the lifting bridge, Hamworthys ground is surely the best place to revitalise Poole Town and find a secure home, ripe for development into a worthy top end non league ground. Hey, I'm a Terras fan, so what do I know?
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Post by richlufc on Jan 26, 2020 22:06:18 GMT
Was chatting to my 80year father in-law,who has lived in oacdale all his life,about the move and tatnam constantly flooding in the far corner....he said no wonder....when he was a kid and growing up the lane behind the ground was known as WELL lane as there was a natural well there as the water naturally ran to it...so would probably never cure the flooding.... can't wait for the move and to watch football all year round. Well Lane is still there
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Post by thomasthetankengin on Jan 27, 2020 6:53:24 GMT
Interesting article on Dorking....seems all the non league success stories are built around grounds with plastic pitches.
Food for thought....has to be the way forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 8:50:54 GMT
Dorking Wanderers played on grass until midway through last season.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Jan 27, 2020 13:55:15 GMT
The relocation was part of Surrey FA’s decision to redevelop Meadowbank as its new headquarters. Read more: pooletown.co.uk/thread/10106/leaving-tatnam#ixzz6CATBU9D5And that was my main point. Surely to God, despite any age old dread of being on the wrong side of the lifting bridge, Hamworthys ground is surely the best place to revitalise Poole Town and find a secure home, ripe for development into a worthy top end non league ground. Hey, I'm a Terras fan, so what do I know? Thank you terras dolphin and congratulations on the Terras success this season. It must be fun. Ground sharing with Hamworthy Utd was tried way back in the nineties after we (PTFC) lost our ancestral home at Poole Stadium. Apparently, it was not a success. However, I think you’re right. Hamworthy’s ground (the County Ground and I believe Dorset FA HQ) is the best option for the future if it can be secured. Amalgamation possibly or, better still, take over. The future, which, in the light of recent indications, is anticipated eagerly by Dolphins fans - particularly those of us in the twilight of our lives.
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Post by happyhammer on Jan 27, 2020 14:39:55 GMT
Personally I'm surprised it's been under the radar for so long it makes total sense to be based at the home of the Dorset FA potentially between all 3/4 parties we could build and develop a ground fit for at least National football and with Dorset not having a full time professional team based in the county surely everyone would be on to a winner. But that is only my take on the state of play. COYD.
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Post by baileypete on Jan 27, 2020 16:40:28 GMT
HAMWORTHY UNITEDS,PARKING WOULD BE A BIG PROBLEM,ALSO I DON"T THINK WE WOULD BE ENTITLED TO ANY BAR TAKINGS.
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Post by thomasthetankengin on Jan 27, 2020 16:48:45 GMT
Dorking Wanderers played on grass until midway through last season. Ah .....no matter , the thought still stands , plastic is the way forward, and after this afternoons rain , I wish we had plastic already as I fear the worst for tomorrow.
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Post by Steve47 on Jan 27, 2020 18:23:07 GMT
How about an amalgamation with Hamworthy United??
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Jan 27, 2020 18:34:20 GMT
How about an amalgamation with Hamworthy United?? A suggestion that was made some years ago as well Steve. I don’t recall it being welcomed then but times have changed. Name? How about “Poole United” Colours? Hmmm!
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Post by parky64 on Jan 27, 2020 18:40:04 GMT
No,no,no. I for one wouldn't back that! Remember when we "shared" with them in the 90s? That didnt go down to well,plus, the county ground would need a lot of work to get it up to SL spec.
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jan 27, 2020 18:53:09 GMT
Really hope we have our own stadium. That we can use & open the clubhouse or any other part of it for events as we please.
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Post by Steve47 on Jan 27, 2020 18:54:53 GMT
Really hope we have our own stadium. That we can use & open the clubhouse or any other part of it for events as we please. Love your thinking Dave, but I just don't know....
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Post by benito on Jan 27, 2020 19:26:22 GMT
Does anybody not remember how this turned out last time we shared with Hamworthy?? It DID NOT WORK whichever way you look at it the county ground is Hamworthy's. They have recently had their club extended and enlarged I hear it is now pretty good. I have no axe to grid with Hamworthy (I live just down the road) but if this is going to be the big secret and the new way forward count me out. How do you suppose the people who run, support and care about Hamworthy United will feel after reading this complete nonsense of a non starter. If this is going to be the 'light at the end of the tunnel' Christ help us. Twenty years after trying it we come back round again. We can not just take over another lower league club which is not suitable in any way. The only way this could have any legs is if Hamworthy United have decided to fold their club which I am sure they haven't.
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Post by chrisreeves on Jan 27, 2020 22:38:36 GMT
I can reassure anyone concerned by the thought of us sharing with Hamworthy that that is not on the agenda.
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Post by BD on Jan 28, 2020 20:18:20 GMT
I can reassure anyone concerned by the thought of us sharing with Hamworthy that that is not on the agenda. Well that's one thing confirmed. Are you able to do the same regarding any collaboration with AFCB?
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