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Post by ethanevesmum on Dec 26, 2018 22:52:01 GMT
Of course, but even the Grinch had a positive comment to make once in a while Chappo!!!
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Post by settman on Dec 27, 2018 8:02:47 GMT
It wont happen until the BOD resign, rubbish performances come from the top (some dont realise that!!) Guess you voted to remain anonymous then.................. Annnnnd yawn Some of the worst comments ive seen on here aimed at someone personally have been aimed at expat and by those who have been using their own names, i dont think i ever saw you defend him?
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Post by ethanevesmum on Dec 27, 2018 8:34:08 GMT
Expat is more than capable of looking after himself!
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Post by settman on Dec 27, 2018 8:39:58 GMT
Thats not the point
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Post by ethanevesmum on Dec 27, 2018 8:49:17 GMT
No and I get that, but without the BOD there would be no football club for us to all sit here and moan about!!! I don't need to explain to any true fan how much personal time, and personal money is pumped into this club by the BOD.
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 27, 2018 9:29:47 GMT
We understand what the BOD do how much time finances im sure they contribute but when we all see a result;performance against with deepest respect not the best side to visit us this season surely you can understand why us fans get so despondent!!!.As mentioned on several occasions recently as soon as someone s views that do not fall in line with certain club members/officials they get flack.Poole Town fc is not owned by any official(as far as i know)so any criticism within reason should be allowed to be taken on board.880 plus crowd have gone away feeling robbed!!!-.i think we really did shoot ourselfes in the foot as if it was my first visit to the ground i m not sure i would want to return thats just human nature.As mentioned before unless its a personal attack on one individual which should not happen then we should be allowed to air our frustrations occasionally.COYD
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Post by ethanevesmum on Dec 27, 2018 9:41:31 GMT
Of course I understand, I was there too. Im just as gutted as everyone else!!!
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Post by lucas1971 on Dec 27, 2018 10:47:15 GMT
Completely embarrassed by a Wimborne side full of our hand me downs and rejects, Killick making an utter fool of himself and shaming the club AGAIN, Shambles on the pitch & even worse on the bench, Never Killicks fault, always someone else to blame (usually the ref). He said it was men against boys but the boys won 5-2? Change the record Tommy. Merry Blooming Christmas.
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Post by grandad on Dec 27, 2018 12:47:12 GMT
Yes Expat, like many other die hard Poole Town F.C. supporters I was there, even dragging along a son in law to see his first PTFC game and for all the wrong reasons it was a game that will remain in my memory for a long long time. Needless to say, the S-I-L has said he won't be coming back. Based on this display it's no wonder the number of deserting supporters far exceeds any regular new supporters. It's been said Poole had more of the play in first half, and yes they did, but they did not have control. If they had, they how do you explain Holmes being able to run from the halfway line, unchallenged,to score their first, with both Whiskin and Spetch, left floundering in his wake. Our play in the first half showed little invention. Our play was very poor, but fortunately Wimborne were even worse. We went in at half time 2-1 up solely down to 2 brief moments of good play by individual players not thanks to good teamwork. T.K's talk at half time then apparently sent the players to sleep. Our play in the second half was very disjointed and lacked energy and passion and once Brooks went off injured, we showed very little attacking invention. Wimbore on the other hand had a young skilful midfielder dictating their style of play and harrowing opponents for the full 90 minutes. A real young whippersnapper by the name of Pettifer. If only we could recruit, KEEP AND REGULARLY PLAY such players.
Yes our BoD, in deed do put much of their available finances into the club, but I wager, it is no greater a percentage of their spare cash, than that of the majority of supporters paying at the gate etc. They have a right to expect the B.O.D. to listen and take account of their views. Myself and other long standing supporters have, for more than just this season, been saying it's a time for change of management. Yesterdays performance of both players and manager could not making it more blatantly obvious.
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Post by John Anderson on Dec 27, 2018 12:49:54 GMT
As one of those usually accused of smiling through adversity I will give I disagreeesssment and it largely corresponds to Peter Leppington's match report on the main website. Apart from a few breakaways, Poole were on top for the first hour and until the second Wimborne goal looked in command. The turning point for me was Marvin's injury. At that point we lost the cohesion that we had shown earlier.
On Tommy's sending off, I can't comment. I suspect that had he seen the two blatant hand balls in the Wimborne area that he would have been incandescent well before his departure.
Ther are some very harsh comments above and it is understandable. It has always been my thought that public criticism is not good for players even though it makes us feel better. However last season, when we played Slough in the FA Cup my brother said at half time "your back four don't trust your keeper". One the basis of that I think the situation has reversed. I don't think Cairney trust the back four. The one that Luke fumbled went through a defenders leg and so he was unsighted. It makes you wonder whether we harshly judged Hutch?
As for Jamie's comment about needing a few more players, he is probably right. Sadly there are a few senior players that have not performed consistently well since the start of last season. Realistically we need to rebuild and although good results against Salisbury and the Terras would put a gloss on matters, there is work to do. It may be wise to adjust expectations and aim for as high as possible rather than the Play Offs this season.
In 2011/2012 we were were in the relegation zone at Christmas then went on a run to end up 2nd. The difference then was that we were playing well but had not quite adapted to the division. This year we should have had more than enough to get into the top few places but it is not just the results that are inconsistent but also our form.
As we go into the new year, there must be no sacred cows. I still maintain that getting a permanent home is the most important thing for the Club is BUT the higher up the pyramid we are the better the new home would be. So whether you have just come up from the U18s or have a c by your name you have to be worth your place.
On a final note. Those calling for changes at board level need to know that a company is not a democracy. Like most clubs, our club is a limited company and governed by company law. Directors are appointed by theShareholders so if you want a change, buy some shares.
Finally In case anyone does not know me by my forum name, I am John Anderson.
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Post by lucas1971 on Dec 27, 2018 13:04:53 GMT
I think you've had too many Christmas drinks John! Are you seriously trying to makes excuses for our keeper on Wimborne's 4th goal? It was embarrassing! As for Killick don't get me started, another display of his lack of class and unacceptable language! Our down full was the complacency of our team lead by Tommy Killick at half time. We thought we'd won the game! Came out the dressing rooms laughing & joking as if it was done & dusted. We were taught a lesson by a Wimborne team who may as well be known as Poole Town Reserves. Starting to think that I'd be better off spending my £12 a week elsewhere.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Dec 27, 2018 15:04:12 GMT
It was classic Poole Town. Go a goal down - fight back and take control - capitulate and lose! On top of that what scorpio called "the curse of the big crowd." From where we exiles are it all adds up to humiliation!
On the 'Hamworthy' thread BD said "we have hit our ceiling" meaning the SLP. He's right but let's make sure it remains our 'ceiling'.
My dad once said to me, "if the people of Poole want a professional club, they'll support it." Do we?
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Post by happyhammer on Dec 27, 2018 15:23:58 GMT
Yes a very good assessment of how things went yesterday.Regards our status in this league yes this is our Premier league so we need to be in it come the end of this season.Our 2 seasons in the NLS showed that untill we have a ground that goes with the territory this is where we need to be.People keep reminding us that our lease runs out in 6/7 seasons whilst im sure things behind the scenes are going on it would be nice to have the occasional update on how things are or are not progressing.I was part of Wokingham town fc playing in the ismian premier league and we lost our ground and total status as a club and without sounding pessimistic i would hate for Poole to end up that way.COYD
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Post by baileypete on Dec 27, 2018 19:13:32 GMT
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Post by lucas1971 on Dec 27, 2018 21:11:27 GMT
Killick now tweeting the Wimborne fans! Will this ever stop, we are a becoming a laughing stock ðŸ˜
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Post by scorpio on Dec 27, 2018 22:45:03 GMT
One positive to come out of playing Wimborne is the emergence of newcomers onto the Forum masquerading as Poole supporters. Always good for a laugh.
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Post by expat on Dec 28, 2018 7:52:48 GMT
Our hard working BOD(twice as hard working as any other NL club??) are labouring on it. Failing a decision it will be referred to the UN! Seriously, surely the thought has been running through many a Dolphin mind since our disastrous relegation from the NLS Are we going forwards or backwards? We do not like PTFC being an object of derision amongst our rivals!! Fresh legs and Fresh ideas urgently needed
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Post by benito on Dec 28, 2018 8:46:30 GMT
I thought I would wait until the embarrassment had worn off (not worked!) Totally agree with lucas1971 and plenty of others on this forum. (there are a few I don't as well, John A) I have been advocating a change of coach for a long time now. Coach is a term I use loosely as I see precious little coaching being done by anybody on our bench. Loads of shouting, swearing and abusive comments to all in-sundry. Seems only yesterday we watched our Head Coach sitting in the groundmans loft watching us collapse yet again in big matches due to his disciplinary issues. Sometimes we have to except that certain people can not change their ways. Also I am tired of how we play, we get a goal up leave it till after half time then hang on for grim death. It is a failed way of playing, look back at the games we have taken the lead in but surrendered late on. ALL the important ones!! and usually to lesser/lower league teams. I suggest we employ a coach that actually does a bit of coaching, a coach that tries to instil some discipline not just on his players but the coaching staff as well. This will not be an easy task because when the BOD need to find a new coach how would they answer to a potential new coach who asks where the club will be in 72 months as this is the date our lease runs out (see Chairman's blog from Sept) time for a bit of honesty on this subject as well I suggest. I am sure people will say here he goes again with his negative comments well if you look back at the first ever page of this forum I was posting on it so I have spent a lot of time, money and effort on PTFC over the years and think I have right to say my piece either negative or positive.
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Post by settman on Dec 28, 2018 9:09:27 GMT
Our hard working BOD(twice as hard working as any other NL club??) are labouring on it. Failing a decision it will be referred to the UN! Seriously, surely the thought has been running through many a Dolphin mind since our disastrous relegation from the NLS Are we going forwards or backwards? We do not like PTFC being an object of derision amongst our rivals!! Fresh legs and Fresh ideas urgently needed Who would want the job though to be fair,and if there was a change it should of happened at the end of last season, after everything TK has achieved he deserves to see the season out in my opinion. Discipline is an obvious problem in this team,has been for years and that comes right from the top as they allow the managers behaviour which in turn goes down through to the team,i remember a few years back with all the problems with certain players language on the pitch and it took ages for the powers that be to listen. I think the supporters need abit more honesty the last two pre seasons has been a joke we can all agree on that,but what is our level,we should start to accept our level,for me its this league,we are not a NLS team,we not got the players and we not got the set up or the backing. The board have achieved miracles getting us back to where we are and getting Tatnam where it is today so they deserve credit for that,we are never going to be in the football league so lets enjoy this league with the odd promotion and relegation, and not get too far ahead of ourselves. But i do believe its time for change and not the chairman,i think hes done a great job with great passion, sort the disciplined out stop blaming referees for our lack of discipline.
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Post by lucas1971 on Dec 28, 2018 9:45:01 GMT
I completely agree with benito & most of what settman have said. Reading Tommy's comments in the echo today, it's another farce. He can't help himself disrespecting people/teams.
'Boxing Day was a day where we just needed to play near our level and we would win the game'
'Salisbury is different in that they are a very powerful side. That's nothing against Wimborne but Salisbury are on a bit of a different level'
Well that side who are on a lower level to Salisbury and we only had to turn up to beat have just battered us 2-5 on our own turf. He called them boys in the interview yesterday? What does that make us?
If Wimborne happen to win Saturday and we lose they're only a point behind us.
No matter what games we have in hand the reality is that we are only 6 points off the relegation zone and that is unacceptable for Poole Town. I've been going since 1976, watched us in the FA Cup first round against Newport and have been lucky that I've mainly seen winning sides, maybe we've just been spoilt over the years but at the moment I think it's a complete shambles.
Just to add I don't think ALL the blame can be at Tommys door. Although it ultimately comes down to him and he shows an awful example, I think the players need to take some of the responsibility too. Maybe he's lost the dressing room? A change is needed somewhere, on or off the pitch.
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Post by John Anderson on Dec 28, 2018 10:17:23 GMT
No excuses Lucas (hic), it just seems iincongruous to highlight the 4th goal when the previous 7 were not Luke's fault. As for that goal, I was at the other end but right in line, I clearly saw the shot and it go through the defender's leg. Luke had little time to react. As with most things, you can look at it two ways and we were looking at it from different angles. Either he did well to get to the ball or he should have done better, we must agree to differ. Sadly it was all over at 3-2 anyway.
As Press Officer I have to be careful what I say but my one beef is constant negativity. I have often disagreed with Expat, Grandad, Pooletownsnr and others but they all have the club's interests at heart and I have often agreed with them too. There are some trolls on here though that are just here to cause trouble. We will see if they ever say anything positive.
It is not all gloom and doom ( well actually it is). The performance at Merthyr was superb against a team that like to play football. Despite the reports we have heard about Wimborne's attractive football, they played just like Hartley Wintney and many other teams at this level. Physically and playing on the counter arrack. Much as people don't liked to hear it Tommy was right the ref let too many harsh tackles go early doors. Tomorrow the boys have a chance to put everything right. Three points tomorrow and some kind of result at Weymouth would end the year nicely and starts the new year in style. Anyway I am off to prepare for Saturday.
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Post by dave2 on Dec 28, 2018 10:19:23 GMT
I completely agree with benito, also there seems to be lacking direction and ideas on playing and being coached. further the team seems to run out of steam in the 2nd half which could relate to lack of fitness or/and mental concentration for the whole game. Many winning goals from the opposition are scored late on in the match.
At one time we had an assistant manager, now a coach, in fact two coaches'
The role of the football coach is to assist players in developing to their full potential. They are responsible for training, in a sport by analyzing their performances, instructing in relevant skills and by providing encouragement. Typical responsibilities include: teaching relevant skills, tactics and techniques. They should preferably have a FA Coaching qualification. They should be able to introduce new ideas when needed.
By the way the Manager's responsibilities in a football club usually include (but are not limited to) the following: Selecting the team of players for matches, and their formation. Planning the strategy, and instructing the players on the pitch. Motivating players before and during a match.
Good team spirit is very important coupled with a will to win.
All this backed up with the a good organisation behind the scenes and promoting the Club. By the way where has Dillon the Dolphin been lately?
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Post by ethanevesmum on Dec 28, 2018 12:21:55 GMT
Dylan was there at half time. He beat Dorsey bear in a penalty shoot out. And I have to say he was brilliant (not that I am biased in any way!!)
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Post by grandad on Dec 28, 2018 15:43:49 GMT
We are told that most of the management, players and B.O.D. do not look at our unofficial forum. If that is true then it is a real shame, for if they did, they would get a real feeling of how most of our genuine supporters were hurt by, not only the result, but also the manner in which the team played and the management/coaching team conducted themselves. Like many supporters I walked away downhearted and discouraged and dwelt on the game for the rest of the day. No matter which way you looked at it, the performance of the management and some players, disgraced and tarnished the history of Poole Town F.C. It is clear from previous comments that T.K. has lost the support of many supporters. I fear that if a change is not forthcoming the feeling of unrest will spread and those of us that can reflect on Poole Town F.C.'s history with pride, will, like our right to be called the Pride of Dorset, become a thing of the past. 48hrs later and the pain of this defeat still hurts like hell.
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Post by expat on Dec 28, 2018 17:12:56 GMT
Thx Grandad and Benito in particular but also to all who have expressed their feelings. We have said our bit and I am sure we do not want to be labelled as malcontents and troublemakers. When I say I am a PTFC supporter I want to say it with pride. That doesn't just mean being on the winning side every week it means knowing that the Team wearing the Red and White will do us proud whatever the result Ambition and Positive Action must prevail and we will get that "Pride of Dorset"title back again UP THE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN!!
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Post by conferenceorbust on Dec 28, 2018 20:22:59 GMT
The club is in turmoil. If a way forward is to be derived may I suggest an urgent meeting? Clubs officials and supporters to lay it all on the table?
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Post by BD on Dec 28, 2018 20:41:49 GMT
The club is in turmoil. If a way forward is to be derived may I suggest an urgent meeting? Clubs officials and supporters to lay it all on the table? Calling an EGM won't change anything. Not sure what the benefit of having one would be mate.
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Post by ethanevesmum on Dec 28, 2018 20:45:21 GMT
I'm not sure that is needed... We lost a game, we are mid table with games in hand to make the play-offs. There is a lot of half empty/half full. Don't forget it was Wimborne's FA Cup final !!!!
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Post by deano is a dolphin on Dec 28, 2018 21:01:44 GMT
Really, try telling that to Matty Holmes, going back to Dorchester tomorrow
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Post by RobTheShirt on Dec 28, 2018 21:36:50 GMT
The club is in turmoil. If a way forward is to be derived may I suggest an urgent meeting? Clubs officials and supporters to lay it all on the table? The club is not in turmoil. Just because the usual suspects have got their knickers in a twist as they do at every opportunity. At least half of those never see a match and one, despite his name, is a Wimborne supporter and has been for a few years and as John and Scorpio say, others are on here to create dissent. Having said that, it really did hurt on Saturday and I fully understand the hurt felt by all of those to whom I have spoken since the game but the vitriol? It has no place here. Why do we need an EGM? I can think of only one person on this thread who has shown his displeasure who actually bothered to turn up at the last one. I certainly haven't noticed any of the usual suspects putting their name forward to help out tomorrow but again, that's no surprise. Yes, the players do read the forum and it does hurt them, especially the newer ones. The more experienced brush it of with a 'same old crap' shrug but it does affect them. I think Peter Leppington got it pretty much spot on in his report. After the first 20 minutes we were all over them. Wave after wave of attack and it was men against boys. Only their keeper kept them in the game. Why the sudden drop back into deep defensive cover happened I have no idea but it cost us the game that's for sure. I don't know what game Grandad was watching but as usual he tends to fit the events into his own personal agenda rather than what actually occurred.
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